Curious why some do not use 1 pedal driving.

[evowner]

Some drink their whiskey, neat.

I like my whiskey neat. I just don't like doing brake jobs, or cleaning off brake dust.
I did not know about the brakes working with the regen. I am going to have to read that manual.

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[Pioneer74]

I like my whiskey neat. I just don't like doing brake jobs, or cleaning off brake dust.
I did not know about the brakes working with the regen. I am going to have to read that manual.

Blended braking. Look it up.

 

[CD4TNF]

I practice both 1PD and 2PD so I can keep up the skill in both.

Fine maneuvers like parking or parking on a slope feels better using the brake. 1PD + Auto Hold lurches too suddenly.


Sometimes my foot gets tired holding the 1PD angle, so I'll switch.


By far the Lightning's 1PD is the smoothest and most enjoyable in the EVs I've tested. Next is the way GM implemented across the Ultium EVs. The worst was I think Toyota BZ4X where the brake pedal moves with the 1PD. The inconsistency of where the brake pedal is felt disorienting. The Lightning is still my favorite.

 

[lightspeed]

I often have to park in spots where I need to get inches away from hard objects.

This is not easy to do with 1PD and induces major pucker factor because you're never quite sure how quickly the braking will take you to zero.

Braking with the brake pedal uses regen. That's what the green circular bar on the left driver screen shows and what the brake coach is scoring you against.

 

[evowner]

I love timing it so that I am coming to a stop just a couple of feet from the vehicle in front of me. Then I get the reward stating that I got 100% regen of that stop. Simple little pleasures.

 

[halfbakedenchilada]

I use both, depending on my mood. Highway driving, one pedal is a PITA (for me). Around town, it's 6 of one, half-a-dozen of the other. Both use regen, do whatever makes you happy.

 

[KingStraasha]

I find 1-pedal driving a much more pleasant driving experience. Not having to move my foot back and forth constantly is a huge plus. I can creep into my garage with 2-3 inches of clearance or easily stop at stop lights/signs with 1-pedal. I only use the break when I have to break faster than the 1-pedal can handle (e.g. person in front breaks when the light turns yellow).

 

[carys98]

Almost 50 years of muscle memory keeps me on 2 pedal. I also find it very difficult to ease into the garage on 1 pedal. In 2 pedal I can keep my foot on the brake while I slowly roll in and stop on the exact spot. I do use 1 pedal when I go to the mountains and I have a long descent.

 

[Fastnf]

I grew up driving stick shift and road raced cars for many years. So my mind sees regenerative braking the same as engine braking which is different from pedal braking. So I find it natural to lift the throttle to slow a little and move to the brake pedal for hard braking.

I am quite comfortable with one pedal driving and never have a second thought if I need to jump on the binders.

 

[CavRider]

I like my whiskey neat. I just don't like doing brake jobs, or cleaning off brake dust.
I did not know about the brakes working with the regen. I am going to have to read that manual.

No! Don't do it!! You could lose your MAN card!!


Edit: uh, assuming you have one of course.

 

[3rdgenfan]

I tried 1PD when I had my Bolt and found it to be less efficient with my driving style, and that carries over in the F150 on my commutes which is mostly highway. I feel I can coast when needed and regen that power where I wouldn't have been able to do so in 1PD.

 

[Mmiketa]

1 pedal is superior except for the snow.

Hard disagree, having driven in a decent amount of snow recently I prefer 1pd in snow by a large margin.

1 pedal is great if I want to make my wife throw up while driving...

This just tells me that you are likely not utilizing the 1PD correctly. Do you fully let off the gas when you want to slow down? You need to feather the throttle like you had to feather a clutch when engine braking back in the day. I've heard this comment online a few times even back in my Tesla days so I have asked my friends while driving if they can tell that I am not using the regular brake...not a single person has told me they could feel a difference.

 

[derelict]

This just tells me that you are likely not utilizing the 1PD correctly. Do you fully let off the gas when you want to slow down? You need to feather the throttle like you had to feather a clutch when engine braking back in the day. I've heard this comment online a few times even back in my Tesla days so I have asked my friends while driving if they can tell that I am not using the regular brake...not a single person has told me they could feel a difference.

I find that trying to drive smoothly with 1 pedal just requires too much focus. I even abandoned sport mode because even that little bit of regen if not managed correctly can make people who are easily susceptible to motion sickness queasy. And I have yet to ride as a passenger in a car with anyone who can give a smooth ride with 1 pedal. So I just opt out. What I really wish is that this truck had paddle shifters that allowed you to step up and down the regen. My old Hyundai Ionic had that and it was great for "engine breaking"...

 

[RickKeen]

There is a lot of misunderstanding about 1 pedal mode on the Fords as compared to 1 pedal mode on Tesla and others.

On Tesla (and many other EV's), you ONLY get regen by releasing the accelerator pedal to slow down. Every time you touch the brake pedal in a Tesla, its applying the friction brakes and you are losing efficiency. It is drilled into Tesla drivers' heads to ALWAYS use 1 pedal mode so as to get best efficiency using regen.

(my personal opinion is that Tesla drivers are so conditioned to never touch the brake pedal that it is one of the reasons Teslas crash more than other brands when they really should have stopped sooner).

On the Fords, you generally get regen from the "Blended Braking" that is applied from the brake pedal. The brake pedal always applies regen first to the extent it is available and then if more braking is needed, uses the friction brakes. It does this fairly seamlessly. Usually the only way you know its using friction brakes is to watch the little light show and have the brake coach give you less than 100% perfect score.

On the Fords, there is no need to use 1 pedal mode to get regen. But if you do select 1 pedal mode, you of course get regen from releasing the accelerator pedal. You also still get regen from the brake pedal until it maxes out and then you get Blended braking.

What Tesla calls "Blended braking" only applies to releasing the Tesla accelerator pedal (not the Tesla brake pedal). It applies the friction brakes from the accelerator pedal release if needed to get the same amount of braking you would have had from regen whenever regen is not available for some reason (battery full or too hot or too cold). This avoids 1 pedal braking surprising you by not working sometimes.

 

[Altivec]

Hard disagree, having driven in a decent amount of snow recently I prefer 1pd in snow by a large margin.


This just tells me that you are likely not utilizing the 1PD correctly. Do you fully let off the gas when you want to slow down? You need to feather the throttle like you had to feather a clutch when engine braking back in the day. I've heard this comment online a few times even back in my Tesla days so I have asked my friends while driving if they can tell that I am not using the regular brake...not a single person has told me they could feel a difference.

Living in Canada where I drive on snow/ice daily I am going to have to disagree with you. When the truck gets into a slide on ice, normally you let off the brakes and coast back into control. In 1PD that is easier said than done. Finding that sweet spot of actually coasting and not accelerating or braking when you are in a slide is just about impossible. And that's for an experienced driver that's not going to panic. For newbies, the tendency is to let off the accelerator instead of pushing it down, which makes the situation much worse.

To be clear, I am not saying you can't drive on Ice and snow in 1PD but in my opinion its much easier and predictable to be in Normal 2PD.

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