Ford’s F-150 Lightning is falling behind Tesla’s Cybertruck in deepening EV crisis

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

I don't envy your job the next 4 years. I've seen a huge uptick in political conflict on all forums recently.

Recently? There's been an uptick the last eight years.

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[WaterboyNorCal]

I think larger battery packs are overrated. Charging speed is more important (and the Lightning isn’t great there). If you’re truly road tripping, a bigger battery pack only gets you further for the first leg of the trip. And if range is cut in half during the winter, then so is the range advantage of the larger battery pack.

Right now the Silverado outpaces the Lightning in both regards, but an ER or SR Lightning with Silverado charging speeds would be a bigger upgrade than a Silverado sized battery.

This is exactly it. A 33% larger battery pack, at the time I bought my XLT, I would have had to spend almost $12,000 more to get an ER, and for something that would only add value for me a few times a year, and be wasted 360+ days a year, made no sense, for me (and I logged 29k miles in my first year). If my budget was bigger, probably still wouldn’t have gotten the ER- I would rather save the $12k towards my next vehicle purchase 8-10 years down the road. Charging infrastructure is what we need (more DCFC along highways), and technology that shortens DCFC times (800v is one). A 200 kWh battery pack (Silverado, I’m looking at you) doesn’t make sense for most people’s use cases, though of course it does for some.

 

[StevenC56]

Recently? There's been an uptick the last eight years.

While that is true, the last 3 weeks feels like I'm tied to a chair while watching a toddler play with a gun.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

While that is true, the last 3 weeks feels like I'm tied to a chair while watching a toddler play with a gun.

Well. Your ad hominen is you getting yourself right into it. And here we go again.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Wow you think my comment was violent?

Where did I say "violent" ?

Focus on disrespectful name calling of forum members or public figures, is what I find no humor with.

I carry a pretty thick skin, some things I've read in other threads that are no longer public triggered other members concern, I or the administration team review it, if the complaint has merit then it's deleted and where excessive pilling on has already happened the entire thread goes into the bit bucket.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

Where did I say "violent" ?

Focus on disrespectful name calling of forum members or public figures, is what I find no humor with.

I carry a pretty thick skin, some things I've read in other threads that are no longer public triggered other members concern, I or the administration team review it, if the complaint has merit then it's deleted and where excessive pilling on has already happened the entire thread goes into the bit bucket.

Your quote.
"Using invectives on public figure names is insulting to either side of the isle your political perception might be, this is a respectable audience not ignorant college zombies following rituals of indoctrination, see ZERO humor in that."

Invective:
1. Denunciatory or abusive language; vituperation.

Abusive violent whatever.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Your quote.
"Using invectives on public figure names is insulting to either side of the isle your political perception might be, this is a respectable audience not ignorant college zombies following rituals of indoctrination, see ZERO humor in that."

Invective:
1. Denunciatory or abusive language; vituperation.

Abusive violent whatever.

Throwing fists real or virtual is violence in my book.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

Where did I say "violent" ?

Focus on disrespectful name calling of forum members or public figures, is what I find no humor with.

I carry a pretty thick skin, some things I've read in other threads that are no longer public triggered other members concern, I or the administration team review it, if the complaint has merit then it's deleted and where excessive pilling on has already happened the entire thread goes into the bit bucket.

Well i've done none of that.I made a joke, and all of a sudden you're talking about violence and throwing fists.

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