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Outside house solar controller and another panel

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Solar controller, input maximums 500DC. output 220vac ( European standard. ) 60HZ. couldn't separator two 110vac.
So much dodgy looking shit in a single blurry photo.

God speed OP.
 

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If your transfer switch also transfers the neutral, then there is no need.

If your transfer switch does not transfer the neutral, then you have the usual problem with the GFCI tripping. Lifting the ground on the house end of the cable at the generator inlet receptacle creates no danger or safety hazard. None. Zero. The only hazard is the code Nazis trying to throw books at you. Every circuit breaker, GFCI, AFCI, and other existing protection devices will all still work. There is no lost or disabled functionality that existed in the normal power configuration. The ground wire in your generator cable is intact and protecting the cable itself. Like if someone ran it over with a lawn mower or water got in it.

It doesn't meet perfect code requirements. But this is temporary, safe, emergency power.
Thank you so much for the advice.
 

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If your transfer switch also transfers the neutral, then there is no need.

If your transfer switch does not transfer the neutral, then you have the usual problem with the GFCI tripping. Lifting the ground on the house end of the cable at the generator inlet receptacle creates no danger or safety hazard. None. Zero. The only hazard is the code Nazis trying to throw books at you. Every circuit breaker, GFCI, AFCI, and other existing protection devices will all still work. There is no lost or disabled functionality that existed in the normal power configuration. The ground wire in your generator cable is intact and protecting the cable itself. Like if someone ran it over with a lawn mower or water got in it.

It doesn't meet perfect code requirements. But this is temporary, safe, emergency power.
I just had a transfer switch installed, got the ground fault error, and "lifted" the ground at the inlet and made a note. Works well :)
 

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I just had a transfer switch installed, got the ground fault error, and "lifted" the ground at the inlet and made a note. Works well :)
Was it the green wire? I disconnected mine, it worked for 15 sec. and quit.
 

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Was it the green wire? I disconnected mine, it worked for 15 sec. and quit.
Yes, discconect the green wire and wrap with electrical tape. The only wires needed are white (neutral), black (hot) and red (hot). The green wire from the truck should be attached to the cover and body of the box.

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Was it the green wire? I disconnected mine, it worked for 15 sec. and quit.
Yup :)

EDIT: did you try all breakers off and turn them on one at a time? Could be compounding issues
 

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Yes, discconect the green wire and wrap with electrical tape. The only wires needed are white (neutral), black (hot) and red (hot). The green wire from the truck should be attached to the cover and body of the box.

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I disconnected the green wire at the black socket. The truck didn't like it.
 

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Yes, discconect the green wire and wrap with electrical tape. The only wires needed are white (neutral), black (hot) and red (hot). The green wire from the truck should be attached to the cover and body of the box
Other way around. The ground coming from the house panel should be connected to the metal box and jumpered to the cover of the metal box. The metal box needs to be protected from ground faults at all times, not just when the truck is plugged in.

The ground coming from the socket or the ground on the house end of the cable are what should be disconnected.
 

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Does anyone know, if you do not have the 240v outlet can it easily be added? Is the correct inverter in the vehicle and just needs the plug and wiring. Or does it require a new inverter?
 

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Does anyone know, if you do not have the 240v outlet can it easily be added? Is the correct inverter in the vehicle and just needs the plug and wiring. Or does it require a new inverter?
Not easy, I have not heard of an option to add it after the fact, it may be possible but no one has mentioned it yet, you need the second inverter that is located under the truck bed to be installed, that is the critical part of the system missing on your build.
 

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Keep it simple and just purchase a 10 gauge 240v twist lock extension cord.
From there you can then purchase a construction style spyder power box.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Champio...tacle-Power-Distribution-Box-201174/327129150

Then plug into that with cords as needed. Of course a well pump would be more hardwired , but the basics such a fridge, tv, internet and assorted appliance and lights can be plugged in.

This is a temporary, emergency connection..not daily, weekly or monthly.

Even a few good extension cords without the spyder box works. You do have 11 assorted outlets in the truck.. Just don't exceed 175 watts in the frunk if you keep it closed.

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Not easy, I have not heard of an option to add it after the fact, it may be possible but no one has mentioned it yet, you need the second inverter that is located under the truck bed to be installed, that is the critical part of the system missing on your build.
Thanks for that info.
 

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Other way around. The ground coming from the house panel should be connected to the metal box and jumpered to the cover of the metal box. The metal box needs to be protected from ground faults at all times, not just when the truck is plugged in.

The ground coming from the socket or the ground on the house end of the cable are what should be disconnected.
I agree ... The electrician did it the other way but yeah, if a non-GFCI generator was used, then the circuit would ungrounded .... Hmmmm
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