I'm Curious, How Many People Are Considering Not Taking Delivery?

[F150ROD]

The F-150 ruled the ICE pickup truck world for decades, but mass produced EV vehicles is relatively new. I think the title for future best selling EV pickup trucks is up for grabs. Only time will tell who will take the title, but for now all manufacturers are at the starting line.

This is true. Which makes for great products coming our way.

As far as battery tech, I think Ford will get there and will be in line with what everyone else is doing by the time the 2nd gen comes around. But it could come at the expense of some of the fun mainly acceleration.

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[Oafy44]

I recommend attending an International Auto Show like I did last month in LA. That puts things into perspective. I canceled my already built order as soon I arrived home. The Lightning looked like an extinct dinosaur compared to what the competition had lined up to take over the EV market. It’s going to be a tough battle, but I’m willing to bet a paycheck that this Gen 1 Lightning will be outdated in just over a year. I’m not ruling Ford out, but they weren’t prepared and rushed this to the market. The next gen Lightning might be competitive, but it might be too late since other automakers are building from the ground up with new tech.

I am by no ways saying you’re wrong for some future predictions but I think you may be looking at this from your point of view vs a whole.
1-the great thing about Tesla/ lightning is it isnt about the car/truck as much as it is the technology and performance. My parents Tesla literally got an update this Christmas and when you push the button it plays Christmas music to the car windows/lights / mirrors and yes- the electrical cover all open and close to the rhythm of the Song. This is what we are buying - constant technology / performance of an EV- and yes some nice styling but if I have great technology that always updates I won’t care what Chevy brings out.
2) Tesla hasn’t done more then switch some wheels out/ change a few small headlight lines / steering wheel and screen in 10 plus years. Look how many EVs have tried to come out and compete with Tesla ? I bet if you were at that show 10 years ago you would have bought a fisher karma based off the looks alone

I run a company and travel about 30k a year. I want something I can take to a job site and a party. I want it to look like a boss has shown up at a job site without being over the top and showing off- and I want something I can clean up and be a very nice car to go to an outing event. What do you think people/ companies will say the second I roll up in a hummer or a cyber truck ?
3) we keep making excuses about the competition ? Where is the competition? Tesla is 2+ years behind on when they said they would produce the cyber truck and we are saying ford isn’t doing a good job? Mary Barra said less than 4 years ago they had no plans on an electric truck and here we are saying the Silverado Avlanc….sorry Ev is going to blow the lightning away. So which company is rushing ? Looks like GM and Stellantis to me. literally took credit for making 26 hummer EVs last year and stopped making them this year because they leak. If Tesla hasn't accomplished to get a model S/E/x/y- to go well over 400 miles per charge since they started - then no one is coming into the market with a truck that’s going to be vastly superior to the lightning for the same price.
4) all interested municipalities that will
Be getting into the EV business isn’t going to buy a rivian truck/ Silverado avalanche Ev / or Tesla. If they do buy a Silverado , it will have to be a whole other truck that actually looks like a work truck…but they will buy a lightning. It’s the only truck that will function like an Ev and fit the type of application a CEO or Forman need.
5). By the time GM/RAM/ Tesla all come out with their truck ford will be in or close to in the 24’ model year- which would be the 3rd year of production.
Sorry for the rant and not trying to single out any comments , just feel Ford is actually doing something they said they were going to do and we aren’t looking at the big picture of all these companies looking “cool and futuristic” at all these shows and can’t produce.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

For everyone pissed about removed features...it's industry wide right now. Heck, Chrysler is making and selling all trims of their Pacifica without a rear camera right now!

 

[Commodore]

I have a MSRP $64,399 XLT SR due January 3rd - 8th.
Donno if it'll come early...

Got financing at a good rate but for only $63,000.
I can take-out IRA money in 2023 to pay more down.

If the truck comes in 2022 it will be tight.
Anybody know what the private cash offer would be on this truck?

Taxes, etc will be tough. I'm gonna try to work it ...if it does come in 2022!

 

[Rancheroni]

I have a MSRP $64,399 XLT SR due January 3rd - 8th.
Donno if it'll come early...

Got financing at a good rate but for only $63,000.
I can take-out IRA money in 2023 to pay more down.

If the truck comes in 2022 it will be tight.
Anybody know what the private cash offer would be on this truck?

Taxes, etc will be tough. I'm gonna try to work it ...if it does come in 2022!

Who did you finance with if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Commodore]

Who did you finance with if you don't mind me asking?

Credit Union

 

[Smokewagun]

Well, my notice came in to order my Lightning. I about fell out of my chair after seeing $78k for Lariat SR with only a tow package. That’s a crock, especially with the likelihood I’ll miss the tax credit by the time it’s built, it’ll cost $6k to upgrade my house electrical service, snd then get a whopping mid to upper 200 miles of range. Looks cool. Fast. That’s it. Think I’m gonna pass.

 

[RVTim]

To those who replied to my query on cancellation, thank you. My dealer was able to get the refund figured out. I must say, I'm a little relieved that I was able to cancel it. When you add up these negatives: No heated steering wheel and some trailering stuff, the inability to get the $7500 tax credit, the large price increase we saw a while back, and....another killer...the raising interest rates, 2023 just had not only too much uncertainty, but in the case of the missing heated steering wheel and tax credit, too much certainty. I think I would have ended up with a big case of buyers remorse, along with a substantial ongoing payment.

It's sad that my build date was just about to come (1/9/2023). Had they not raised the price and the tax credit not been squashed, I'd probably be driving one by spring.

 

[carrillj]

I bet Ford delayed the production and shipment of locked in MY22 pricing knowing that people would cancel their order since they would lose out in the EV tax credit. That way they can sell it for full (and markup) pricing. We’ll it worked, because I canceled my order, but in return they lost a lifelong Ford customer. I will never purchase another Ford vehicle.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

If the truck comes in 2022 it will be tight.
Anybody know what the private cash offer would be on this truck?

If you ordered in September (Wave 1 or 2) then your PCO would be: SR $6,500/ER $8,500

If you didn't order in one of those waves you don't qualify for the PCO.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

I bet Ford delayed the production and shipment of locked in MY22 pricing knowing that people would cancel their order since they would lose out in the EV tax credit.

That sounds like a conspiracy theory...sorry.

Alot of us on the forums have recieved our MY23 trucks with MY22 pricing. If anything, Ford prioritized getting trucks built that didn't have long chip holds.

 

[carrillj]

That sounds like a conspiracy theory...sorry.

Alot of us on the forums have recieved our MY23 trucks with MY22 pricing. If anything, Ford prioritized getting trucks built that didn't have long chip holds.

What exactly is the priority order based off of chip availability? And what exact chip are we talking about? Does each trim level use a unique module, or are the chips standard across the board? Without these facts, you are creating a conspiracy theory yourself.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

What exactly is the priority order based off of chip availability? And what exact chip are we talking about? Does each trim level use a unique module, or are the chips standard across the board? Without these facts, you are creating a conspiracy theory yourself.

1. My Pro was originally quoted with a Autumn 2023 build date.

2. My Pro has less parts and modules than a Lariat or Platinum (standard non-motorized tailgate, no heated steering wheel, no work surface console, different seats, different floor, no rear under seat storage, different keyfob...etc).

3. My MY23 Pro with MY22 pricing has already been built and delivered.

All 3 of those things are factual. My opinion was based of those facts.

Why would Ford build my 2023 Ford Pro at a MY22 price (absolutely least amount of profit of any model) if they were trying to screw people who got MY22 pricing?

Not sure how I'm creating a conspiracy theory.

You are mad, understandably, but making up reasons why Ford is or isn't doing things with no facts (aside from you being upset and canceling your order) just is a baseless opinion trying to rile others up.

 

[carrillj]

1. My Pro was originally quoted with a Autumn 2023 build date.

2. My Pro has less parts and modules than a Lariat or Platinum (standard non-motorized tailgate, no heated steering wheel, no work surface console, different seats, different floor, no rear under seat storage, different keyfob...etc).

3. My MY23 Pro with MY22 pricing has already been built and delivered.

All 3 of those things are factual. My opinion was based of those facts.

Why would Ford build my 2023 Ford Pro at a MY22 price (absolutely least amount of profit of any model) if they were trying to screw people who got MY22 pricing?

Not sure how I'm creating a conspiracy theory.

You are mad, understandably, but making up reasons why Ford is or isn't doing things with no facts (aside from you being upset and canceling your order) just is a baseless opinion trying to rile others up.

My truck had a Nov 7th built date and as of today, it’s still at the factory waiting shipment. Some trucks with the same trim level (Lariat) we’re built weeks after mine and have shipped. So conspiracy theory or not, I have every reason to speculate Ford Corp or dealer behind the scenes actions.

And for the record, I did receive my reservation and deposit back, but the truck is still technically mine for the taking which is why I’m even remotely interested in still talking about it. Once it gets delivered to the dealer is when I will have to officially buy or cancel it. Will I change my mind? Probably not, but with no money to lose, I’m in control. Until then, I think I can freely discuss the topic since I’ve have had vested interest for years and should be allowed to come up with a conspiracy or two.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

And for the record, I did receive my reservation and deposit back, but the truck is still technically mine for the taking which is why I’m even remotely interested in still talking about it.

Wow, that's pretty lucky that the dealer is still willing to hold it for you without a deposit/reservation.

Technically the dealer owns your truck until you take delivery.

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