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Yes I realized that I did that now you mentioned it. Thank you. I noticed that yesterday driving my son to the airport I got 2.8 kWh preconditioning the battery and that was with the air conditioner on.
My precondition does not involve AC right now šŸ˜
 

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This subject has been a huge frustration for EV and hybrid Mfrā€™s for decades. The 2004 Toyota Prius was originally rated as a 60mpg car. That was true at 60mph or less and driven delicately.
But the average consumer didnā€™t drive like that, and complained like hell that Toyota was misleading. They later changed it to like 48mpg.
Sad, because I could consistently get 60mpg.

(If exploited with extreme driving techniques, hypermiling with outrageous speed fluctuations , it could get 100mpg. Yes 100mpg !)

Itā€™s been the same struggle with consumers, conditioned by gas cars, ever since.
Bottom line, EV drivetrains are extremely efficient, but extremely affected by the ā€œvaraiablesā€ā€¦., which are many.
Kind of reminds me of an old S10 I had, with the 4.3l v6, manual, single cab, I was always getting 20+ mpg (often 25 or more) even with cold conditions. The State I lived in at the time had kind of low speed limits, so that helped, but I was always surprised what good mph it got vs what the EPA rated. Also, I wasn't hypermiling at all, I was in my early 20s, so you can guess how efficient I was driving.
 

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Getting (recently) 2.4mi/kWh cool weather (50F) 25mph gradual accelerations and stops.

Half what my 2012 Nissan Leaf gets under same conditions (4.8mi/kWh) in ECO mode.

Leaf wt.: 3401 lbs
Lightning wt.: 8250 lbs

I assume the weight, i.e., the road/tire friction and inertia (to get it moving), it adds are the main reasons - wind resistance at 25 would be a pretty minimal factor, though not zero.
 

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Need a big town / small city driving, because I get around 3 when driving to/from work. A lot of 35mph driving with a little bit of 45-55.
Yes the city driving does great mileage. Yesterday I was getting 3-3.4 mi kWh As long as you keep your foot out of it itā€™s amazingly efficient.
 

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This is an interesting thing to say.
Because the computer is telling you the ā€˜variables you donā€™t give a care aboutā€˜ are, in fact, effecting your range. Disregard or denial will not change that.
Why do you believe you should get an arbitrary ā€œ300 milesā€ from a 100% charge, regardless ?


You can always determine your range by multiplying your average mi/kWh by remaining battery capacity.
Remaining battery capacity is battery % x 131 kWh.
But donā€™t waste your time, itā€™s the same calculation being displayed to you .
I like to keep my center console display on "this trip" and keep tabs on my miles/kw efficiency. My average seems to be around 2 miles/kw.
 

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Lets use your analogy, and I'll use real world. I have a goldwing as my primary vehicle. It has a 6 gallon tank and I know I can get 40-45 miles to the gallon, I know because I have driven it to 240+ miles. This is my starting point. SO, I know I can always get 240 miles on a full tank.

So every time I top my tank off I will get 240 miles. Now that is effected by rain, wind, co-rider, trailer, etc. (within that 240 miles), But lets assume I am by myself, when I top my tank off again, I know I can get 240 miles.

This is my point, everytime I top my tank off my starting point is always 240 miles.

But for some reason the computer in my truck is telling me everytime I top my battery off to 100% I will NOT get 300 miles I will get a different value each time and each time it is always lower. I want to know if 300 miles like Ford and the EPA is my 100% starting point

When I got my truck in September I got 299 miles to a 100% charge and now I get 249 miles to a charge, I don't want a average of my driving habits, I want to know what estimated mileage will be on a 100% charge each time I top off the battery. That is my point.
trade it in for an ICE truck.
 
 





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