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Payload capacity on Lightning Lariat Extended Range : 1452 pounds (Updated: Now 1697 pounds in some configurations)
Easycamper
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For sure. I’m just talking about maybe 300-400 lbs here (maybe 5% of GVWR). In my younger days I did a 2500-mile trip in Honda Civic overloaded by 200 lbs. it’s good to know the numbers but okay to apply a little bit of common sense to them.
VTbuckeye
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I have no idea how overloaded my 91 civic was in 2002 on my way to college from VT to OH. The transmission made a funny not quite grinding, but gear meshing noise in 1 and 2 before that trip. The noise was in 1,2,3 and sometimes 4 after that drive. I couldn't pack any more stuff inside the car. Packed solid other than driver's seat and site line to passenger side mirror. Three bikes on the roof rack. A couple hundred pounds overweight in a truck that weighs 7k pounds is probably ok. Definitely better than a 2200 pound civic with probably 1100 pounds of driver and stuff.
p52Ranch
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I have been known to put 5,500 pounds of gravel in the back of my old F150 7700. Tare weight 5,600 pounds Gross weight 11,100 pounds. Would only drive it about 15 miles like that and never at highway speeds.
I'm not likely to overload the Lightning nearly that much. But a pallet of QuikCrete weighs 3400 pounds. Use the trailer? Put it in the bed? Decisions to be made in the future. But probably the trailer with those SL rated tires on the Lightning. Light Truck E rated tires will probably kill the Lightning's range.
I'm not likely to overload the Lightning nearly that much. But a pallet of QuikCrete weighs 3400 pounds. Use the trailer? Put it in the bed? Decisions to be made in the future. But probably the trailer with those SL rated tires on the Lightning. Light Truck E rated tires will probably kill the Lightning's range.
ExCivilian
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How is this a serious consideration? The bed will be sitting on the tires...
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LightningShow
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The most I ever overloaded a vehicle was about 2000 lbs in my 2006 Kia Sedona, most of that was engineered hardwood flooring. The flooring place loaded it in the back with a fork truck. It was pretty funny to see how far it sank when they let the weight off. I had to drive it about 50 miles loaded up, it actually did pretty well.
p52Ranch
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I've always used my trucks for truck things and sometimes used them over their stated limits. I'll be replacing my F250 Super Duty with the Lightning. So yes, I will occasionally need to buy a pallet of QuikCrete. I doubt the springs would be completely bottomed out even with a pallet of QuikCrete in the back.
If I keep the OEM tires then that SL tire rating with a payload capacity of 2756 pounds per tire would probably get me to hitch up the 14,000# rated trailer instead of putting the load in the bed. If I upgrade to an E rated tire at some point then it is likely that pallet goes in the bed.
p52Ranch
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The whole reason for getting the pallet in the first place is to avoid manually handling forty two 80# bags of QuikCrete. I have pallet forks as an attachment on the New Holland to unload said pallet into the barn or wherever I need it.
The 5.5' bed will keep me from trying to load 2 pallets of sod onto the Lightning.
Easycamper
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The Lightning has a rear GAWR of up to 4950 lbs. More than an HDPP. I think it’s going to be pretty capable. Yes obviously there’s the weight of the battery but that suspension is pretty stout. Don’t tell anyone but there are vastly overloaded 3/4 ton diesels out there that do just fine.
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ExCivilian
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This entire conversation is just becoming increasingly bizarre to me. You've got you acting like it's just a casual thing to overload a truck by more than a ton while using your F250 *super duty* for comparison! A super duty isn't a 250, a 250 isn't a 150, and none of them are on IRS on top of it all.
Meanwhile, you have a trailer that could both handle the load *and* be easier to unload when you get to destination, which is why I wrote I didn't understand how dropping a nearly two-ton load into your F150 IRS pickup bed is a serious consideration. And all on public roads...
You do know we're all running air so we don't drag our bumpers on the ground, right? And that's for the fifth wheel. I do *not* regularly overload my 3/4 ton diesel by a full ton in the bed.
Easycamper
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Sure and you’re doing just fine. Which was my point.
These weight threads always get silly with people arguing extreme examples. How did we get from a few hundred pounds to casually overloading by a ton? What happened?
RickLightning
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Not normal F-150 springs... https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-independent-rear-suspension-detailed/
ExCivilian
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Yeah, I'm doing fine. My fifth wheel doesn't overload my 3/4 ton...but it still squats without air. It would be ridiculous to stack another half ton on top of it and it's built for this task unlike the F150's suspension. I would not be "fine" if I tried to use my truck like that. That was my point. When people talk above carrying over load we're almost always referring to a few hundred pounds--not a few thousand.
As for how we got to this absurdity, it's not due to exaggeration but rather because p52Ranch wrote he's going to put a 3400 lb pallet in the bed of his truck. That's a literal ton over payload (in a half-ton pickup w/ IRS).
And that's just one piece of the puzzle. I don't know the exact tires we're getting on these, but the idea that Ford is going to be sending these street trucks, primarily being sold to a non-truck demographic, out the door with 10 ply, 80 PSI tires is almost as unbelievable as someone with a trailer option choosing to instead stack 4K lbs in the bed of their 1/2 ton.
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astricklin
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If you really feel like destroying your brand new $74k truck then go for it. Personally, I'll use my tools within their stated specifications. They don't put those stickers on the vehicle for their own amusement. Sure a couple hundred pounds probably isn't going to be a problem, but over double is just asking for things to break.
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