What will be different for MY23 and MY24 Lightning?

[Oneand0]

1. Price increase.
2.(Hopefully) More Pro’s available.

I believe Diabolical is right about the Pro. Only a lucky few will have a chance of ordering it each time the new year starts for orders.

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[Maquis]

If the chip shortage persists, there could be deprecation of features. The Mach-E lost its hands-free lift gate for 2022, for example.

I‘d really like a 6-1/2 bed version.

 

[SteffanG]

You're lucky you even get a pro version. In Canada the Pro is only fleet sales, retail cannot buy one. I originally wanted a platinum but stepped down to a Lariat 511A due to the $10k price difference, 22" wheels, and reduced towing.

I can't see thr price going down but I can see them opening up more of the battery capacity. On the MachE the MY22 got 91kWh but the MY21 is still stuck at 88kWh

 

[sotek2345]

More colors hopefully

 

[KevinC]

It might not happen for the 2022, but the 2023 is very likely to have more LFP battery chemistry. It could vary by trim levels. LFP are cheaper and more durable and that's why Tesla and other automakers are shifting in that direction. They arent as energy dense but the lower cost makes up for it. With the recent shortages of Ukrainian/Russian Nickel it's almost a guarantee to happen. If they dont, Ford's just not going to be competitive financially in the lower trim categories.

 

[REDHORSECA]

MY24 will have a much more efficient flux capacitor < ~121 gigawatts.

 

[gorwell]

If the chip shortage persists, there could be deprecation of features. The Mach-E lost its hands-free lift gate for 2022, for example.

On that note, similar things are happening elsewhere as well.

The mid-year Refresh of the Ioniq 5 overseas lost features as standard for this very reason. Now if you want it their full Driving Assist features , you have to pay extra.

 

[VTbuckeye]

I‘d really like a 6-1/2 bed version.

I wonder if with proper funding and a donor truck could you take the bed and cab of a super cab and put it on top of the lightning drivetrain and frame? I don't think that a super crew with 78" bed will work with the different wheelbase.

 

[Maquis]

I wonder if with proper funding and a donor truck could you take the bed and cab of a super cab and put it on top of the lightning drivetrain and frame? I don't think that a super crew with 78" bed will work with the different wheelbase.

Sounds like something I’d have tried 30 years ago…..not likely today! ?

 

[VTbuckeye]

Sounds like something I’d have tried 30 years ago…..not likely today! ?

Something someone will try in 6 years, outside of warranty, depending on what is available in the market.

 

[sotek2345]

It might not happen for the 2022, but the 2023 is very likely to have more LFP battery chemistry. It could vary by trim levels. LFP are cheaper and more durable and that's why Tesla and other automakers are shifting in that direction. They arent as energy dense but the lower cost makes up for it. With the recent shortages of Ukrainian/Russian Nickel it's almost a guarantee to happen. If they dont, Ford's just not going to be competitive financially in the lower trim categories.

Maybe, but LFP battery's are much more sensitive to cold - not good for the northern parts of the country.

 

[jazzmanmonty]

'24 gonna be a big year if the Silverado gonna release on time. Right now Ford has no competitor so it can get away with cloning the ICE. I'm sure GM gonna switch some stuff up to make it better than the current f150 once they get hands on, so plan on Ford making some bigger changes by '24 to make the lightning more desirable than the competition. I'd also really expect a huge increase in battery life if GM comes thru with 400 mile range. If they don't, GM gonna capitalize on it for sure.

Also, if GM keeps it's price point as stated, or close, don't expect a big price flux from Ford. Again, due to the fact that it'll be ford's first competitor.

 

[jfried]

Ford expects to be able to sell every 2022, 2023, and likely most of 2024 vehicles to people who threw down the $100. There is very little reason for them to make any significant changes beyond colours; maybe mix up the grille / wheel designs, etc.

Those wishing for more availability of the Pro, I think you'll probably be disappointed as Ford will likely steer these orders to both small business and fleet. I wouldn't be all that confident in them "breaking up" option groups either -- given how much this can simplify the process.

The Ram and Silverado are supposedly coming in 2024... which would likely give Ford reason to release a new version in 25 or 26.

 

[SteffanG]

'24 gonna be a big year if the Silverado gonna release on time. Right now Ford has no competitor so it can get away with cloning the ICE. I'm sure GM gonna switch some stuff up to make it better than the current f150 once they get hands on, so plan on Ford making some bigger changes by '24 to make the lightning more desirable than the competition. I'd also really expect a huge increase in battery life if GM comes thru with 400 mile range. If they don't, GM gonna capitalize on it for sure.

Also, if GM keeps it's price point as stated, or close, don't expect a big price flux from Ford. Again, due to the fact that it'll be ford's first competitor.

Yes GM, Chevy, and maybe RAM will release in 2024, but it will be in small numbers compared to what ford will be putting out. The 2025 change would be the big one as that is when the other EV trucks would start ramping up more production so more competition. Better to release the new truck that year and leap way ahead of the competition.

 

[IdeaOfTheDayCom]

1. Look - Mirror ICE forever.

I think the core look will always mirror the ICE version, so until there's a Gen 15, the look won't change, and when it does, it will look like the Gen 15.

2. Performance - Evolution, not revolution.

The fact that the performance of even the lowest trim already exceeds ICE means they've already more than eliminated anyone's doubt that a truck can be run entirely on electricity, so any improvements will simply evolve with the industry.

3. Battery Range - Slightly improved, but not much.

I don't think we're going to see massive improvements in battery technology over the next couple of years. There are DEFINITELY new battery advances on the horizon, but the biggest hurdle still remains production capacity.

4. Features - A LOT more flexibility.

It drives me crazy that I couldn't get the specific configuration I wanted because of the limited choices when I ordered. My last XLT had so many features that I couldn't get for the Lightning. I needed to add the $9500 312A package just to get power seats for my passenger and a heated steering wheel... yet even at $64,000 I can't add a the sliding rear window which is normally a $300 option... or a sunroof.

I think they eliminated all those options so they could make it easier to cookie cut the production for the first year. There should definitely be more options next year.

5. Price - Up... but possibly lower at some point.

EVs have fewer parts, and they're are so much easier to manufacture, with one exception... the batteries are super expensive and in short supply. As new battery factories are build and the supply of batteries eventually levels out, the biggest expense in manufacturing will be eliminated. When the supply is no longer an obstacle, competition will also increase, and that tends to lower prices.

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