2023 F-150 Lightning Standard Range Increased to 240 Miles; Pro Trailer Hitch Now Available; Order Banks Re-Open With Updated Pricing

[Chemeng1661]

Looking at the build and price tool - Does it look like the “grille” on the Lariat now matches the platinum grille?

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[Solar_EE]

Maybe it's on purpose so people are more likely to buy the SR and use up fewer of Ford's limited battery supply.

I suppose that could be true, hard to say with the Ford marketing department, my SR XLT is supposed to arrive by August 18th- glad to get that at MSRP of $52K

 

[roamtheworld]

I wonder if the EPA increase will come to MY22s via a software update. I'm assuming it's the same battery pack and it's more about software tweaks.

I wouldn't hold your breath on OTA for this anytime soon based on my experience with our Mustang Mach E and OTA updates. It's painful the rollout of OTA for Mach E owners. I'm sure Lightning is getting lots of love but it's the same back-end systems rolling out the OTA and I wouldn't get your hopes up if you have a first-year model. 2021 Mach E owners are still waiting for power ups and Blue Cruse to roll out years into ownership.

 

[rockerdan]

Not sure if I did the math wrong, but im seeing my PRO order with 3 added options(Max tow, Tow Tech, and Tailgate step) will go up a whopping $7805 for the '23 model.

I'm hoping to get in on the order banks for '23 model but not holding my breath.

I find it interesting the price difference from Ford is near exact same as the 7500 tax rebate that will be in the new law. However Im pretty sure the FORD batteries do not have enough % of chemicals sourced from North America so i dont think the lightning will even qualify for the new law. Grrrr.

Dan

 

[SteelTerp87]

The range increase is interesting, I wonder how they managed that.

>> F-150 Lightning customers can choose two new colors among the 10 available options – Avalanche Gray and Azure Gray metallic tri-coat. Those colors replace Atlas Blue, Ice Blue Silver and Smoked Quartz Metallic, which are not available on models built starting this fall.

Wonderful! They've taken 3 of the more interesting colors away, in exchange for MORE greys!

Gray must be more aerodynamic

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Yeah it sounds like they’re trying to soften the blow of the $8k bump on a pro….

$7k before options, keep with the program. That's only $700/mile of range extra! What a deal!

 

[jb56]

Because I'm not in a ZEV state and I also don't really trust Ford that much, I'm not holding my breath that my very very early reservation will lead to being able to order this week.
That will be disappointing, of course, but honestly, as someone who wants to tow a couple times a year, I really do want the extended range battery. But to lose the color I wanted and to have my build price go up to $89,709 is making me wonder if maybe I'm just not cut out to be an early adopter here.

I get that electric cars are expensive and all that. I get that inflation is making everything more expensive. But $89,709? For a truck that can only tow a camper 150 miles before charging?

Sure, it's an insanely awesome truck, but when you get close to that $90k mark, the competition gets pretty broad. As the used truck market is cooling, there are going to be some incredible lightly used F350s available in the same time frame for that price. And although I understand that is a totally different animal, I'm just trying to illustrate that this price point really has so many different options.

I wonder why they got rid of Ice Blue (or whatever its called). Maybe it just didn't look as good as they thought? Quality problems?

 

[sotek2345]

Because I'm not in a ZEV state and I also don't really trust Ford that much, I'm not holding my breath that my very very early reservation will lead to being able to order this week.
That will be disappointing, of course, but honestly, as someone who wants to tow a couple times a year, I really do want the extended range battery. But to lose the color I wanted and to have my build price go up to $89,709 is making me wonder if maybe I'm just not cut out to be an early adopter here.

I get that electric cars are expensive and all that. I get that inflation is making everything more expensive. But $89,709? For a truck that can only tow a camper 150 miles before charging?

Sure, it's an insanely awesome truck, but when you get close to that $90k mark, the competition gets pretty broad. As the used truck market is cooling, there are going to be some incredible lightly used F350s available in the same time frame for that price. And although I understand that is a totally different animal, I'm just trying to illustrate that this price point really has so many different options.

I wonder why they got rid of Ice Blue (or whatever its called). Maybe it just didn't look as good as they thought? Quality problems?

The deleted colors could have been paint supply issues.

But my running theory is that the paint selection department at Ford is just run by someone very boring who is scared of anything exciting.

 

[VTbuckeye]

The deleted colors could have been paint supply issues.

But my running theory is that the paint selection department at Ford is just run by someone very boring who is scared of anything exciting.

The product is exciting enough. No need for exciting or even vaguely interesting paint. That must be their logic.

 

[davehu]

from the latest Ford Authority news updating the earlier one on when the order banks open: 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning order banks are now set to open this Thursday, August 11 – a couple of days later than previously expected – with production beginning on October 10th, 2022.

 

[astricklin]

Guess it's time to negotiate a deal to buy a pro mannequin in 6 months.

 

[ExCivilian]

I wonder if the EPA increase will come to MY22s via a software update. I'm assuming it's the same battery pack and it's more about software tweaks.

From what I've seen, every manufacture launches with a relatively conservative BMS/charging curve on their EVs (other than the compliance cars from 5+ years ago) and then updates them next model year with a marginal difference.

To my memory none, other than the startups, have increased previous model years' effective range. The upshot is that our batteries have a larger reserve and will, in theory, last longer than those who enjoy farther range.

This is one of those annoying aspects of legacy sales. Every model "year" has to iterate in order to generate new sales--or so they think. Tesla, and Apple before them if we're going to broaden to tech generally, have already demonstrated unequivocally that you can just sell a product line, update it iteratively, and have plenty of sales. Really don't have to gatekeep new efficiencies behind newer model years. It tends to alienate the earlier purchases for a gain I can't really understand--it's not like all of us who have '22s are going to trade "up" to a '23.

 

[Tenny]

So is there anyway to actually get on the reservation list again yet? I tried on their website and couldn't find a way.

 

[sotek2345]

So is there anyway to actually get on the reservation list again yet? I tried on their website and couldn't find a way.

Not yet, they haven't opened that up. If they have a low conversion rate, maybe late in 2023?

 

[dkf150]

It's crazy that they killed the communication color, Iced Blue Silver. Makes the Iced Blue car pretty rare.

Also, the range increase is just new cycle testing and software tweaks with EPA.

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