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Maybe he needs to put it to 99/on hold and submit, then change to 10? Any other ideas?

THIS!!!

IIRC Tim Bartz has covered this scenario in prior videos, the sales manager or order clerk at the dealer can move it to 99/hold, edit the order, document the facts behind the required removals, then return for submission to the factory, then a regional/nation manager could escalate it to a less than 10 priority to get it back into the schedulers view.
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Keep working with your dealer.

Have your dealer reach out to their brand manager or regional rep before you go back.

The dealer may have to approve the equipment removal (scales, heated steering, etc) along with your signature to be sent to Ford before Ford will remove it from "HOLD" status.

Take a look at the VVR at your dealer and confirm if your build is listed as "Clean - Unscheduled".

When it's in priority 10 thru 19, that's the dealer range they can assign.

Once Ford assigns a VIN, Ford can move it to priority 1.

Call Ford new vehicle marketing and ask them status as well.

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My Mustang Mach E was pushed from '22 to '23 as well and it took a lot of back and forth between the dealer and myself. Dealer could not verify amount of Private Cash Offer on their screen.

After a week, got my Premium MME order in - got VIN # last week, scheduled for 12/5/22 build, and Ford Marketing confirmed priority 1 status along with $6,000 PCO
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Thank you. I will check with ford customer service to see what it says on their end. My dealer said that he had already contacted the regional rep and whoever is above him (this is how it got reentered in the first place) but then the regional rep told him nothing can be changed on the order. None of that makes any sense to me. Why bother putting it back in at all? Dealer said I should just sit and wait to see if anything changes on the order. It's very frustrating.

I'm curious what the deal is with code 19, if that's a code that ford could move forward on. He says the status is Compatibility, not unscheduled-clean, but I'll check it out tonight for myself.

Thanks again to everyone on here for all the information.
 

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THIS!!!

IIRC Tim Bartz has covered this scenario in prior videos, the sales manager or order clerk at the dealer can move it to 99/hold, edit the order, document the facts behind the required removals, then return for submission to the factory, then a regional/nation manager could escalate it to a less than 10 priority to get it back into the schedulers view.
Thank you! In my fit of rage yesterday, I did not go back and view that video, but I will check it out today. I'm determined to prove this dealer wrong.
 

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THIS!!!

IIRC Tim Bartz has covered this scenario in prior videos, the sales manager or order clerk at the dealer can move it to 99/hold, edit the order, document the facts behind the required removals, then return for submission to the factory, then a regional/nation manager could escalate it to a less than 10 priority to get it back into the schedulers view.
Well, the visit to my dealer was a bust. He wouldn't take me into his office to look at the order on the computer. He only brought out the print out of the order screen. I asked him to explain what kind of error he is getting when he tries to remove the scales. He just kept saying that it won't let him change it and I'll never get the truck because 'ford is going to cater to who they want to cater to.' He says he tried to change it to priority 99, twice, but it didn't work. He also reiterated that I should just wait 2-3 weeks to see if ford does anything with it.

The print out shows priority 19, status: Compatibility-unscheduled.
 

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So lots of asking my dealer what’s up, them asking ford… out of nowhere my truck just shows it’s in production. No blend date yet. No heated steering wheel…. They’re going to see if they can retrofit it for me. Supposedly all the factory parts are available.

oh, I have a spray in liner too.
 

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So lots of asking my dealer what’s up, them asking ford… out of nowhere my truck just shows it’s in production. No blend date yet. No heated steering wheel…. They’re going to see if they can retrofit it for me. Supposedly all the factory parts are available.

oh, I have a spray in liner too.
Priority 19 is a default priority assigned at a dealer. That shouldn't inhibit you, I got scheduled as a Priority 19.

Spray in liner also wouldn't delay you in getting scheduled.
 

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If anyone wants to follow my saga:

I talked to and then chatted with ford motor company this morning. I got no where on the phone call, other than a sympathetic "im so sorry you are experiencing this". I forgot to ask for it to be escalated, so I initiated a chat and asked for that. I laid out all the details only for them to say they can't meddle in dealership sales policies, so I need to contact the dealer. But, they would be happy to send the information to the general manager of my dealership, which I agreed to. I have spoken to (once) and emailed(3 times) the GM/GSM and they won't respond to me. I know they are receiving them because the salesperson always calls my husband the next day. I emailed them again today, but I don't expect much in return, so I need to start working on my next plan. It really shouldn't be this hard to spend $80k.
 

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Unreal. The dealership finally admitted that Ford won't fix this because they decided not to be an EV dealer in the future, so the rep won't help them. I'm going back to Ford to request a new dealer. So furious that we are left in the dust of their feud.
 

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It really shouldn't be this hard to spend $80k.
This is how I feel as well. I understand strong demand and supply chain issues are outside of Ford’s control. The part that is frustrating me is how dependent we are on dealers being tuned in to those issues and required to take correct and timely action in order for us to get our trucks. I see examples on here of dealers who are doing this well and then those who are really struggling to adapt.

I was hopeful that Ford would move away from the dealership model, but it doesn’t look like that is their plan, so now I hope they do a better job training and communicating with their dealers so they can work within Ford’s system.

If I had direct access to my order and could have changed the color myself as soon as smoked quartz stocked out, rolled it over to a ‘23 order as soon as ‘22 was fully scheduled, or deleted each of the other features as soon as I recognized it was necessary, I suspect that I would be scheduled by now. Instead I spend days/weeks trying to coach and convince a dealer to do it, falling further back in the queue while I wait.
 

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This is how I feel as well. I understand strong demand and supply chain issues are outside of Ford’s control. The part that is frustrating me is how dependent we are on dealers being tuned in to those issues and required to take correct and timely action in order for us to get our trucks. I see examples on here of dealers who are doing this well and then those who are really struggling to adapt.

I was hopeful that Ford would move away from the dealership model, but it doesn’t look like that is their plan, so now I hope they do a better job training and communicating with their dealers so they can work within Ford’s system.

If I had direct access to my order and could have changed the color myself as soon as smoked quartz stocked out, rolled it over to a ‘23 order as soon as ‘22 was fully scheduled, or deleted each of the other features as soon as I recognized it was necessary, I suspect that I would be scheduled by now. Instead I spend days/weeks trying to coach and convince a dealer to do it, falling further back in the queue while I wait.
Likewise, giving the customer more information. I only figured out what was actually happening because of this forum. The dealer didn't seem very computer savvy, so after reading what needed to be done to push my order through, I'm not surprised he botched it.

We never expected to actually get to order one. If we never did, I'd probably be fine not having it. But we were so close, and one person's incompetence (which he takes no accountability for) has messed it up. Just infuriating.

I can't tell if you have succeeded with your dealer yet, but I wish you the best of luck.
 

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Talked to two different branches of ford customer service and neither had anything to offer. "Sorry only the dealer can change orders." So what can I do if the dealer can't or won't (not sure which) and the Rep won't allow it (according to dealer)?

(Mostly rhetorical but taking advice if anyone has any). This sucks.
 

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Unreal. The dealership finally admitted that Ford won't fix this because they decided not to be an EV dealer in the future, so the rep won't help them. I'm going back to Ford to request a new dealer. So furious that we are left in the dust of their feud.
Do you really believe that or is that just an incompetent dealer passing the blame?
 

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Talked to two different branches of ford customer service and neither had anything to offer. "Sorry only the dealer can change orders." So what can I do if the dealer can't or won't (not sure which) and the Rep won't allow it (according to dealer)?

(Mostly rhetorical but taking advice if anyone has any). This sucks.
Do you really believe that or is that just an incompetent dealer passing the blame?
Incompetent, lazy dealerships should lose their entire franchise agreement, JMHO
 

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Do you really believe that or is that just an incompetent dealer passing the blame?
It's honestly hard to tell. Dealer has not expressed any accountability for canceling it in the first place. He is 100% blaming Ford. My husband is convinced the dealer canceled it on purpose because this happened a few days after we checked out the demo, and he subsequently got a call from the sales team about our "interest in their Ford lightning". We were 100% clear when checking out the demo that we had an order in. In the other hand, the salesman is not very tech savvy, so botching the onboard scale removal is also a distinct possibility.
 

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I'm a glutton for punishment so I'm still fighting this. The GM of the dealership called the other day and finally admitted some wrong doing on their part. Said he has been trying to get in touch with the rep to get answers, but he's not getting back to him. I called Ford to complain about the regional rep, got bounced around 7 times and ended up with nothing.
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