Did Tesla get Gov't money for opening NACS? Also NEVI is disappointingly slow

[luebri]

Well you are partially wrong. Existing sites do matter as part of the program there is a mileage requirement.

So for an existing site to count it would either need to meet the requirements or if the proposal includes the site, it would need to be updated.

So while NEVI is not requiring an upgrade, if an existing site is planned to be counted in the corridor requirements, the contractor could propose it with an upgrade.

I was under the belief only brand new installs qualified. I have seen no evidence otherwise, but I could be wrong. Im 99% sure every location granted funding here in WI are brand new. Ironically the only 2 locations that Tesla was granted are within a mile or two of an existing V3 NACS supercharger, which would seem odd if they could of gotten funds via a retrofit.

Also Im fairly certain the distance between chargers calculation only considers CCS chargers so basically treating existing v3 superchargers (non magic docks) as non existent

 

[Maineiac12]

Why are we arguing this point? Does it really matter why they opened the network?

It was a smart business decision that I think we can all agree was a good thing. Elon might be a tool, but not everything he does is bad.

 

[Grease Lightning]

I was under the belief only brand new installs qualified. I have seen no evidence otherwise, but I could be wrong. Im 99% sure every location granted funding here in WI are brand new. Ironically the only 2 locations that Tesla was granted are within a mile or two of an existing V3 NACS supercharger, which would seem odd if they could of gotten funds via a retrofit.

Also Im fairly certain the distance between chargers calculation only considers CCS chargers so basically treating existing v3 superchargers (non magic docks) as non existent

In Oregon ODOT helped with the analysis and have to comply with the NEVI requirements and at the time they required CCS because NACS was an offer of a standard, but part of a closed network. With Elon opening up his network, he basically became eligible but would still need CCS, hence the magic dock SCs.

Oregon added this to their NEVi RFP to capture NACS…

So forward thinking states are trying to cover all current standards. So any NEVI site build in Oregon will have CCS, NACS and CHADEMO.

I recall Tesla was one that did submit during the RFQ.

 

[luebri]

Why are we arguing this point? Does it really matter why they opened the network?

It was a smart business decision that I think we can all agree was a good thing. Elon might be a tool, but not everything he does is bad.

It bothers me when people state incorrect information. I think facts are important and like to know what is fact and what is fiction

Im not arguing, I'm genuinely trying to find the answer.

 

[luebri]

In Oregon ODOT helped with the analysis and have to comply with the NEVI requirements and at the time they required CCS because NACS was an offer of a standard, but part of a closed network. With Elon opening up his network, he basically became eligible but would still need CCS, hence the magic dock SCs.

Oregon added this to their NEVi RFP to capture NACS…

So forward thinking states are trying to cover all current standards. So any NEVI site build in Oregon will have CCS, NACS and CHADEMO.

I recall Tesla was one that did submit during the RFQ.

Not really relevant to the discussion about NACS access via adapter, but Yes I was aware of some states doing this. Though including NACS was not a requirement in Phase 1 here in WI the vast majority have them in their site proposal. The phase 1.5 request for proposal do now require it.

 

[Maineiac12]

It bothers me when people state incorrect information. I think facts are important and like to know what is fact and what is fiction

Im not arguing, I'm genuinely trying to find the answer.

It feels like you’re offended on behalf of Tesla for some reason. I don’t get why people fanboy for companies or celebrities. These people don’t care about us, only our money. Loyalty to any company is stupid.

 

[luebri]

It feels like you’re offended on behalf of Tesla for some reason. I don’t get why people fanboy for companies or celebrities. These people don’t care about us, only our money. Loyalty to any company is stupid.

I’m Just calling balls and strikes with the info I have.

I agree with your comments 100% regarding company loyalty.

 

[electricpig]

The impediments you bring up though valid are in many ways self induced, by other areas of government waste.

You stated NEVI, and I and others have shown how that can't be concluded at this time. Just because you don't like the answer isn't my problem. Reality is different from what you stated. I'm done with you as you obviously have made up your mind and will not change it. So this is a waste of time

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