🚨 Breaking: More HP for both extended (580hp) and standard (452hp) range Lightning! + Max hauling up to 2235 lbs

[jaykoolzboy]

F150 Lighting is just too heavy to do 0 - 60 in 4 seconds flat with any tire or environment. At absolutely the best I am looking at 4.3 - 4.4 seconds with the right tire, right driver and right environment (climate, altitude and on a well maintained race track)

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[MickeyAO]

F150 Lighting is just too heavy to do 0 - 60 in 4 seconds flat with any tire or environment. At absolutely the best I am looking at 4.3 - 4.4 seconds with the right tire, right driver and right environment (climate, altitude and on a well maintained race track)

Are we really quibbling over 0.3-.04 seconds in a pickup truck? Even questioning 0.9 seconds seems excessive on the acceleration for a TRUCK!

 

[SteffanG]

F150 Lighting is just too heavy to do 0 - 60 in 4 seconds flat with any tire or environment. At absolutely the best I am looking at 4.3 - 4.4 seconds with the right tire, right driver and right environment (climate, altitude and on a well maintained race track)

Yet the Hummer EV that weighs a little over 9000lbs can do it in 3 seconds.

We are talking about a truck, not a sports car.even 4.9 seconds in a truck is fast. The only reason to have fast speed is to have fun maybe 1% of the time. Very few people are going to be using all that acceleration on a regular basis. My last car (it got written off in a total loss not of my fault) was 0-60 in 7.2s, and it was plenty fast for me. Rarely ever did I even accelerate that fast so it is more for fun than anything else.

 

[sotek2345]

Are we really quibbling over 0.3-.04 seconds in a pickup truck? Even questioning 0.9 seconds seems excessive on the acceleration for a TRUCK!

Given the new HP ratings, we can ratio from the Mach-e GT to get an idea (not GTPE becuase the Lightning will not have sticky summer tires.

Lightning - 580HP / 6800lbs = 11.72 lb/HP
Mach-e - 480HP / 5000lbs = 10.4 lb/HP @ 3.8s

At that ratio, the Lightning would be ~4.3s Not bad! This is pretty much the lower limit.

 

[davehu]

i heard that too. Can't be right, can it? I mean, I heard him say that but he's the only one that has said that.

found this in the Detroit Bureau review " The automaker originally estimated the truck would hit 60 in about 4.5 seconds. The long-range model I drove did it in about 4.1 seconds, making it one of the fastest pickups ever built. And on the highway, you’ll find it continues to deliver plenty of passing power well beyond legal speeds. "

 

[F150ROD]

Just look at Redline Review 0-60, they got 4.1

 

[jaykoolzboy]

Damn, I thought it's going to be 4.3- 4.4 at its best, how wrong I can be, both Alex and Redline performed in the low 4s (4.1 - 4.2 seconds), well, with the right tire and environment, I have no doubt F150 ER can do 4 seconds flat (especially with some software boost later on), what a beast.

 

[GoodSam]

So is Horsepower difference due to the larger battery able to flow more electrons to the motor per second? Or is there a software limit and/or direct current cable size (different for ER vs SR) to the motor limit?

 

[Mr. Flibble]

Yet the Hummer EV that weighs a little over 9000lbs can do it in 3 seconds.

We are talking about a truck, not a sports car.even 4.9 seconds in a truck is fast. The only reason to have fast speed is to have fun maybe 1% of the time. Very few people are going to be using all that acceleration on a regular basis. My last car (it got written off in a total loss not of my fault) was 0-60 in 7.2s, and it was plenty fast for me. Rarely ever did I even accelerate that fast so it is more for fun than anything else.

You are not wrong, sports car like performance isn't really needed in a truck.

Though we probably will use this daily. Reason being we live just off of a rural highway, and our driveway links with the highway next to a blind corner with a lot of traffic at certain times of the day.

Getting that gap to either merge with traffic, or worse, having to turn left across the other lane is a pretty scary affair.


I use sports mode when making the left hand turn across traffic.

 

[Tony Burgh]

You are not wrong, sports car like performance isn't really needed in a truck.

Though we probably will use this daily. Reason being we live just off of a rural highway, and our driveway links with the highway next to a blind corner with a lot of traffic at certain times of the day.

Getting that gap to either merge with traffic, or worse, having to turn left across the other lane is a pretty scary affair.


I use sports mode when making the left hand turn across traffic.

It’s the torque that gets you there, it’s the horsepower that keeps you there.

 

[sotek2345]

So is Horsepower difference due to the larger battery able to flow more electrons to the motor per second? Or is there a software limit and/or direct current cable size (different for ER vs SR) to the motor limit?

Pretty much.

Think of it this way (which ignores thermal limits, but is about right). EV motors hold a constant torque at low RPMs. As RPMs increase HP increases (torque x RPMS/5252) and you need more current. At some point you hit a limit and then the motor stays at constant HP and torque starts to drop off. In the ER battery, that transition is higher in the RPM range so you get more HP.

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