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It's been nearly a day. What was the notice?
Report up above. Same as others, recall for Drive mode, must return to default. Already fixed in a SW update.
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It's a regulatory compliance recall, nobody needed or wanted the stability control to staff off. You're probably thinking about how it should keep the drive mode after restart, that feature some people wanted but I wouldn't say many cared about it, it's only 2 button presses.
Being able to stay in Sport is my number 1 request for new features. I never got 6.3 but I am hoping that Ford implements it correctly and rolls it out in a future update.
 

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I believe I’ve heard this asked before: but does anybody know if it’s possible to look up history of updates? I’m less concerned about the recall notice as I know those are often delayed or the recall itself, as I rarely change out of normal driving. What I am curious about is that when I go onto my Ford account, it still shows this recall as outstanding, but I thought I received this update. However, because of FMC’s superb transparency and communication, I have no record of what updates I received and which ones I maybe didn’t.
 
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I believe I’ve heard this asked before: but does anybody know if it’s possible to look up history of updates? I’m less concerned about the recall notice as I know those are often delayed or the recall itself, as I rarely change out of normal driving. What I am curious about is that when I go onto my Ford account, it still shows this recall as outstanding, but I thought I received this update. However, because of FMC’s superb transparency and communication, I have no record of what updates I received and which ones I maybe didn’t.
Your app will have a few listed, but they fall off. Someone with FDRS might be able to see a few of the updates, but I'm not sure it even has a long back history.

I may have missed a couple of my first updates, but I make a screen shot of each update I get. I've shared this a time or two if you want to compare or look back and wonder what you may or may not have had applied. This is one of the more complete lists for the Lightning I've seen. The lists for the Mach E are better and we get most of what the do, so you can look back on them too for comparison.

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It's a regulatory compliance recall, nobody needed or wanted the stability control to staff off. You're probably thinking about how it should keep the drive mode after restart, that feature some people wanted but I wouldn't say many cared about it, it's only 2 button presses.
It's fucking annoying. Why 2 button presses when it could just stay how it was?
 

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Yep! I got the same recall notice today. The stupid thing about it, while the notice encourages owners to go for the OTA update to fix the Sync screen problem that screwed up Electronic Stability Control not being reset from Off-Road driving mode, etc., the letter doesn't mention anything about the LVB %SOC, etc. Since the vehicle has to be off and the update is going to take two hours, for sure, one is probably going to need a well-charged LVB for the update to go. But zero mention of this in the letter. :rolleyes:
So, not to upset the Apple cart here, but I'm pretty sure the stability control thing with the Off-road switch was a result of our ask to save the Sport. vs reset to normal mode. The setting was probably in a program group that kicked them in the ribs while they were trying to accommodate us. It was an unintended side effect that needs to be fixed to meet regulatory requirements. The SOC update, while nice, has nothing to do with the legal need to restore the Off-road (differential lock) issue that affects slippery condition stability. So let's separate the issues. 1). Ford needs to reset the off-road setting on every power-up (legal requirement). 2) Ford WANTS to listen to us and hold the driver mode setting we set through power cycle and 3) Ford wants to provide the %SOC that we've asked for. Let's have a little patience as they work through it.
The LVB issue has seen some progress. At least now they charge the LVB when it gets low. For future updates, I expect they will turn on the DC-DC charger to power through. They'll figure it out.
In the meantime, understand your truck and make sure you turn Off-Road mode ON/Off definitively and with purpose to be safe (OFF in ALL CASES unless you need the traction off-road).
As for the SOC - Nice to have but a little mental math goes a long way. I've out-smarted the GOM many, many times very successfully and while it would be nice to have it front and centre, I can manage quite well with it as is. I know how far my truck will go in given conditions. The learning curve is well worth the investment.
 
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So, not to upset the Apple cart here, but I'm pretty sure the stability control thing with the Off-road switch was a result of our ask to save the Sport. vs reset to normal mode. The setting was probably in a program group that kicked them in the ribs while they were trying to accommodate us. It was an unintended side effect that needs to be fixed to meet regulatory requirements. The SOC update, while nice, has nothing to do with the legal need to restore the Off-road (differential lock) issue that affects slippery condition stability. So let's separate the issues. 1). Ford needs to reset the off-road setting on every power-up (legal requirement). 2) Ford WANTS to listen to us and hold the driver mode setting we set through power cycle and 3) Ford wants to provide the %SOC that we've asked for. Let's have a little patience as they work through it.
The LVB issue has seen some progress. At least now they charge the LVB when it gets low. For future updates, I expect they will turn on the DC-DC charger to power through. They'll figure it out.
In the meantime, understand your truck and make sure you turn Off-Road mode ON/Off definitively and with purpose to be safe (OFF in ALL CASES unless you need the traction off-road).
As for the SOC - Nice to have but a little mental math goes a long way. I've out-smarted the GOM many, many times very successfully and while it would be nice to have it front and centre, I can manage quite well with it as is. I know how far my truck will go in given conditions. The learning curve is well worth the investment.
The SOC % was added this past summer to trucks that received that SW update. Many didn't get it. So when they updated the IPC again for BC and additional tweaks (6.X release), those that got this update then got the SOC update. So this is the second update containing SOC %. There will still be some that still don't get it for various reasons, like the '23 trucks that aren't getting any updates. They'll get it when the next IPC is sent.

It is also already known (from the Mach E forum) that the 6.13 release keeps the DC to DC contacts closed to better support the 12v system for upgrades.
 

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The SOC % was added this past summer to trucks that received that SW update. Many didn't get it. So when they updated the IPC again for BC and additional tweaks (6.X release), those that got this update then got the SOC update. So this is the second update containing SOC %. There will still be some that still don't get it for various reasons, like the '23 trucks that aren't getting any updates. They'll get it when the next IPC is sent.

It is also already known (from the Mach E forum) that the 6.13 release keeps the DC to DC contacts closed to better support the 12v system for upgrades.
So to my point, we are making progress. (wife has the Mach-E too) %SOC is simple math..... If the truck doesn't do it for you, You can do it.... %SOC is available on the Quiet screen and the Charge app. It can be done..... Simple math.... By the way, I don't have the SOC update either.... yet I just traveled 1200km in the last few days without incident. Stop early, stop often and stop where you know you will get decent charge rates and you will be happy,
 

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The SOC update, while nice, has nothing to do with the legal need to restore the Off-road (differential lock) issue that affects slippery condition stability. So let's separate the issues.
I think you mistook my reference to % SOC. It has nothing to do with an SOC update. It just sounded to me like it's one of those updates that will require >80% SOC of the LVB to go through. That's all my reference to LVB SOC meant. When they emphasize that the owner will have to have the vehicle off and not use it for at least TWO HOURS, they ought to forewarn folks in advance that a high state of charge of the LVB is likely also required. Notices that I've received before on my Sync screen where a high LVB SOC was required didn't mention that. Only the alerts about the update that I've received via FordPass, which I didn't always pay attention to until the update failed. Now I've learned that basically, all the update notices that I've received via the truck Sync screen that instruct me to shut down the vehicle require a high LVB SOC. But for all the effort to mail out such an official letter, Ford could detail the expected vehicle setup requirements for the update - help educate owners to have satisfactory update experiences rather than another failed update and try, try again... Maybe the Sync screen update notice this time around will list full update requirements, but a little repetition never hurts.
 

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I think you mistook my reference to % SOC. It has nothing to do with an SOC update. It just sounded to me like it's one of those updates that will require >80% SOC of the LVB to go through. That's all my reference to LVB SOC meant. When they emphasize that the owner will have to have the vehicle off and not use it for at least TWO HOURS, they ought to forewarn folks in advance that a high state of charge of the LVB is likely also required. Notices that I've received before on my Sync screen where a high LVB SOC was required didn't mention that. Only the alerts about the update that I've received via FordPass, which I didn't always pay attention to until the update failed. Now I've learned that basically, all the update notices that I've received via the truck Sync screen that instruct me to shut down the vehicle require a high LVB SOC. But for all the effort to mail out such an official letter, Ford could detail the expected vehicle setup requirements for the update - help educate owners to have satisfactory update experiences rather than another failed update and try, try again... Maybe the Sync screen update notice this time around will list full update requirements, but a little repetition never hurts.
Definitely agree with that. The clarity on 12V SOC is still an issue. In fact, I've had multiple issues with updates failing due to the 12V SOC issue but it is a process issue. Ford tries to update based on the SOC of the LVB but in reality, the 12V system isn't sufficient in many cases, and a DC-DC charge cycle is necessary to get through the big ones. It is a software setting that FORD needs to figure out. I hope FORD is watching this thread since this simple switch would solve the issue. My last update tried 5 times and failed until I put a 12V battery charger on the battery.... then it succeded. A simple activation of the DC-DC charger solves the issue... 131Kw battery is certainly sufficient for a simple firmware update.
 

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It's fucking annoying. Why 2 button presses when it could just stay how it was?
Only the software guy at Ford knows, or maybe they don't. The power up's have gone completely off the rails. One day we might get a newer version of bluecruise.
 
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