Best home charger CANADA.

[whitelightning44]

Hi there. Im
New to the site and we’re very close to pulling the trigger on a 24 lariat. Just wondering what would be my best and most economical option for home charging….. I don’t think I want to shell out nearly $2000 CAD for the for pro charger…… I will need to have a 240 installed in my garage so would a “plug and play unit” be best, or have it hardwired ? Thanks for the help (not the best navigator on forums)

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[bub]

2024 lightnings max out at 48A level 2 charging.

The ford charge station pro is an 80A charger. You will not be able to fully utilize it. Its a waste of money for you. Unless you plan on purchasing the home backup solution (which most people on this forum will advise against) then it makes no sense to buy it.

Plug in units are fine, but they pretty much all use 50A outlets (the 14-50r) which for continuous use @ 80% limits you to 40A charging. You'll be leaving 8A on the table for a plug in charger.

I don't have any specific chargers to suggest. But I think you'd be satisfied with a 40A plug in charger. Or a 48A (or more) hardwired unit. Look around for the best value charger for you that sits in one of those two categories, but don't bother with the FCSP.

 

[bub]

Doesn't hurt to check out Tom's youtube channel for picking a specific model

 

[Heliian]

I would buy one of these 48a hard-wired.

https://grizzl-e.com/ca/?gad_source...xUM-xDUIB105TMEBHtpjNXi0jw8M9FmBoCNlsQAvD_BwE

I would also look for a portable unit that has selectable current at 240v. 120v charging is fairly useless but is still a nice feature in a portable unit.

 

[Athrun88]

I ended up getting a Chargepoint Home Flex because it's supported by Hydro One under their program.

 

[The Weatherman]

I have the FCSP for my 22 Lightning and our EV6 came with a ChargePoint Hime Flex. They are both good units. The CP Home is a little pricey for a 48 Amp EVSE.

Personally, if I was buying one off the open market, I would look closely at the Grizzl-e 48Amp Mini. It’s priced right, a Canadian company and it can be used as a portable travel unit as well as a home charger.

 

[Ragman]

Simplest/cheapest - Grizzl-e from United Chargers for $399. 50 amp breaker from Home Depot for $39, 50 ft 8awg Simplex for $129. Nema 14-50 outdoor plug $39 Cdn Tire. 6 ft Flex Conduit and ends $25.

DIY if you are handy or any competent electrician under an hour install.

 

[Radar]

If you buy a 48 amp charger it will require a 60 amp breaker hard wired #6 gauge wire. If you are going with a 40 amp charger you can use a 14-50 out but don’t use a Home Depot cheap one use a Hubble or Bryant socket.
I just been thru all this.
Grizzl E are great chargers…

 

[Ragman]

Unless you really need the 48 amps stick with the 40 amp chargers - 48/60s need to be hardwired - mention hardwiring and EV charger to an Electrician and that’s like blood in the water for a shark. A lot of jurisdictions have extra hoops/code/permit requirements for “EV Chargers” that just means you get to pay more.

A 14-50 is just a “plug” - generic code rules/permits/costs. Your EV Charger is just something you plug into it.

And in future if the EV charger fails, toss/return/plug in a new one - no electrician needed.

 

[whitelightning44]

Unless you really need the 48 amps stick with the 40 amp chargers - 48/60s need to be hardwired - mention hardwiring and EV charger to an Electrician and that’s like blood in the water for a shark. A lot of jurisdictions have extra hoops/code/permit requirements for “EV Chargers” that just means you get to pay more.

A 14-50 is just a “plug” - generic code rules/permits/costs. Your EV Charger is just something you plug into it.

And in future if the EV charger fails, toss/return/plug in a new one - no electrician needed.

I’m obviously very new to the EV world and learning lots for sure. Thanks for the input! So are you suggesting to buy a plug and play charger over hardwiring ? Hardwiring seems like it would be expensive and somewhat unnecessary….. all I need to know is what’s going to be the best charger, and what breaker I need for said charger. I’m not worried about how fast I can charge necessarily, just can I plug this in, program it to charge during off peak hours, and get a full
Charge (or close to it anyway)

 

[Al_V]

I’m obviously very new to the EV world and learning lots for sure. Thanks for the input! So are you suggesting to buy a plug and play charger over hardwiring ? Hardwiring seems like it would be expensive and somewhat unnecessary….. all I need to know is what’s going to be the best charger, and what breaker I need for said charger. I’m not worried about how fast I can charge necessarily, just can I plug this in, program it to charge during off peak hours, and get a full
Charge (or close to it anyway)

Emporia, or as others have stated Grizzle.
40 amp charging requires 50 amp breaker 6awg copper wire, 48 amp charging = 60 amp breaker 4awg copper wire.
You can buy a 48a charger, but run it at 40a if you prefer to plug it in.
Hardwire vs 14-50 outlet is basically the same cost except the wire, but I suggest run the heavier wire either way (and hardwire, unless you are going to want to use the same charger away from home).
Don't use a cheap 14-50 receptacle, they are not designed for many hours of continuous service.

 

[Ragman]

I’m obviously very new to the EV world and learning lots for sure. Thanks for the input! So are you suggesting to buy a plug and play charger over hardwiring ? Hardwiring seems like it would be expensive and somewhat unnecessary….. all I need to know is what’s going to be the best charger, and what breaker I need for said charger. I’m not worried about how fast I can charge necessarily, just can I plug this in, program it to charge during off peak hours, and get a full
Charge (or close to it anyway)

We have no issue using the 40 amp Grizz Smart keeping trucks doing 200 miles a day happy. We get 9 kw from them the extra 2 amps going to 48 aren't missed.

I havent used the Emporia chargers however others here swear by them as well - best reporting functionality

What I like about plugged is we needed two chargers, unplugged it and put on a Duo (dual cord 40 amp) took 2 minutes. Oh, need Tesla? Swap again.

And... need to plug in that camper/welder/Food Truck just unplug charger and use it for anything needing 240v.

 

[mrau]

just can I plug this in, program it to charge during off peak hours, and get a full
Charge (or close to it anyway)

You could use a 50 amp Grizzle charger with a 14-50 plug on the end. Install a 14-50 outlet in garage (electrician may be needed). Once the outlet is installed you can use any charger you like with the 14-50 plug (no electrician needed).

Also, you can use a dumb charger that does not do any scheduling. The truck can do all the scheduling it self and can be set up to charge during off-peak hours if you like.

 

[LSUT1GER]

I have the Emporia 48V unit and no issues. Emporia

 

[farmtruck]

I’m obviously very new to the EV world and learning lots for sure. Thanks for the input! So are you suggesting to buy a plug and play charger over hardwiring ? Hardwiring seems like it would be expensive and somewhat unnecessary….. all I need to know is what’s going to be the best charger, and what breaker I need for said charger. I’m not worried about how fast I can charge necessarily, just can I plug this in, program it to charge during off peak hours, and get a full
Charge (or close to it anyway)

If you have an existing circuit, buy a charger that matches that circuit. A 30 amp circuit will run a 24 amp charger and a 50 amp circuit will run a 40 amp charger. If you need to add a circuit, have the electrician look at your panel before you buy the charger. They will be able to tell how big a charger your panel can handle. Plug and play will not necessarily be cheaper but is more versatile because you can plug other appliances into the outlet. Hard wired will be better if your charger is to be placed in a wet, dusty or otherwise hazardous location.

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