Massachusetts launches a two-year V2X pilot program

[MountainAlive]

This is interesting because 1. The F150 Lightning is eligible and 2. It means there is actually bi-directional charging equipment available that is NOT the home integration system that Ford/Sunrun offers.
https://electrek.co/2025/02/28/massachusetts-launches-a-two-year-v2x-pilot-program/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/technology

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[Danface]

Just signed up to "Express my Interest"


Program Schedule

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Stage	Timeframe
Expressions of Interest Open	February - April 2025
Application Requirements Announced	April 2025
Applications Open	April - July 2025
On-Site Assessments	July - December 2025
All Installations Completed	September 2026
End of Reporting	December 2026

 

[MountainAlive]

Just signed up to "Express my Interest"


Program Schedule

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Stage	Timeframe
Expressions of Interest Open	February - April 2025
Application Requirements Announced	April 2025
Applications Open	April - July 2025
On-Site Assessments	July - December 2025
All Installations Completed	September 2026
End of Reporting	December 2026

I did the same. I’m curious at least but it looks like only a handful of residential inquiries will be selected.

 

[Danface]

I did the same. I’m curious at least but it looks like only a handful of residential inquiries will be selected.

Yeah, I'm about 500 feet from a Economic Justice Zone so that may be helpful. I also have a brand new 200 amp panel so hopefully that may have some sway in the decision. It will/would be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[MountainAlive]

Yeah, I'm about 500 feet from a Economic Justice Zone so that may be helpful. I also have a brand new 200 amp panel so hopefully that may have some sway in the decision. It will/would be interesting to see how it plays out.

If you get selected then keep us posted!

 

[NikonJim]

Thanks for the heads up. Short reporting period, figured it would be more than 4 months.

 

[Danface]

Will do!

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

Yeah, I'm about 500 feet from a Economic Justice Zone so that may be helpful.

Myself as well. EJ Zone across the street

 

[JvdMaat]

Thanks for the heads up. Just registered as well. Hoping the Western Mass location helps in being selected. I have been looking at the Home Integration System, but cost has been a slight deterrent.

 

[Danface]

Thanks for the heads up. Just registered as well. Hoping the Western Mass location helps in being selected. I have been looking at the Home Integration System, but cost has been a slight deterrent.

I just used a lockout on the main electrical panel and a 30, 240 volt generator plug as my home backup and that means I can feed the entire panel from the truck but it's manual.

The HIS seems to have a lot of issues.

 

[JvdMaat]

I just used a lockout on the main electrical panel and a 30, 240 volt generator plug as my home backup and that means I can feed the entire panel from the truck but it's manual.

The HIS seems to have a lot of issues.

Doesn't the base model only output 2.4kW on the 240V plug in the bed?
Our geothermal heat uses 2500W when it's running, so that would not be enough.

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

Doesn't the base model only output 2.4kW on the 240V plug in the bed?
Our geothermal heat uses 2500W when it's running, so that would not be enough.

I don't know all the trim levels, but there are at least two Pro Power Onboard versions. The 2.4 kW version only has 120V receptacles all around and 2.4 is the rating that could be pulled by plugging extension cords into the various receptacles. The 9.6 kW version has all the same receptacles and adds the 20A 240V receptacle. 240V x 20A = 7.6 kW. 7.6+2.4 = 9.6.

You'd have no problem with sustained operation of the geothermal equipment on it's own if you installed a traditional 30A generator interlock setup.

 

[Maquis]

I don't know all the trim levels, but there are at least two Pro Power Onboard versions. The 2.4 kW version only has 120V receptacles all around and 2.4 is the rating that could be pulled by plugging extension cords into the various receptacles. The 9.6 kW version has all the same receptacles and adds the 20A 240V receptacle. 240V x 20A = 7.6 kW. 7.6+2.4 = 9.6.

You'd have no problem with sustained operation of the geothermal equipment on it's own if you installed a traditional 30A generator interlock setup.

Interesting math!

 

[tearitupsports]

Doesn't the base model only output 2.4kW on the 240V plug in the bed?
Our geothermal heat uses 2500W when it's running, so that would not be enough.

A bi-directional charger shouldn't matter what trim level you use, because it is using the DC bus directly. It will be your best bet to use loads probably up to 9.6kW and possibly 11kW if they are using the PointGuard hardware.

The Pro-power is a separate system and comes in the 2.4 kW or 9.6 kW (split between 2.4 and 7.2).

Both systems can be used at once, so you could possibly use as much as maybe 19kW if you completely isolated the loads between different systems.

 

[Danface]

Doesn't the base model only output 2.4kW on the 240V plug in the bed?
Our geothermal heat uses 2500W when it's running, so that would not be enough.

I have the ProPower option with 7.2kw.

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