Performance mods for more power?

[RickKeen]

That will be BECM and battery limited before the wires will catch on fire. If you manage to reflash the BECM, you might be able to get a bit more juice out of the pack. However I would worry about battery cooling at that point.

Your peak or instantaneous power is going to be a function of the battery voltage, battery resistance, motor inductance, and any losses in between (wires, inverters, etc). In short time frame (seconds), you will have limits due to Inverter module junction temp and motor windings temp limits. Maybe also battery cell temp short time frame limits. Even if the heat sink or coolant can be kept at a low temp, the heat can only get from the battery cell, inverter junction, or motor winding to the heat sink/coolant so fast.

In tens of seconds to sustained time frames, your bulk cooling of battery, inverter, and motor is then going to come into play.

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[RickKeen]

I wonder if this has been done already.

With a current 0-60 in upper 3s/lower 4s for the F150L (depending on trim), you might get another second. However I would worry about grip at that point.

The Mustang Mach-E Rally has 480-horsepower, 700 lb-ft of torque (which is slightly less less than the F150L), and has a curb weight of 4,920 lbs. So based on the specs, and marketing, it has a 0-60 mph of 3.3 second.

So if you drop the weight of the F150 to that of the Mach-E Rally, you will be ahead of the since you have more HP/Torque.

Went searching performance truck forums on other suggestions for losing weight. They also notably had:

Lose the jack.
Lose the carpeting, insulation, headliner.
Lose the old lady / passenger.

 

[pullinggs]

Used to be you could buy an old Mig fighter plane for cheap. Chop off the wings and strap it in the bed? Kinda like this.

(Still trying to decide how scary "even faster" would be in my truck. It's amazing what you can get used to.)

 

[Heliian]

As mentioned, weight reduction is the easiest way, then the wheels. You could also mod the suspension to give you a better launch. In the future, you'll just pay for a subscription to the perf pack.
Personally, I would just buy a Mach e if I wanted more performance, there is only so much a truck can do.

 

[GarageMahal]

I have always considered traction to be a limiting factor in the Lightning. the traction control system does a great job of eliminating wheel spin but that translates to lost acceleration.

Lauch with TC off and you will see what I mean <burnout emoji goes here>

 

[Henry Ford]

I have always considered traction to be a limiting factor in the Lightning. the traction control system does a great job of eliminating wheel spin but that translates to lost acceleration.

Lauch with TC off and you will see what I mean <burnout emoji goes here>

What? No. Wheel spin contributes to loss of acceleration. TC is the only thing keeping you out of the ditch!?

Jason Fenske from Engineering Explained did a video explaining max potential 0-60 time. Tl;dw: it's about 2.0 seconds, weight is good for traction, most cars don't have enough power.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

What? No. Wheel spin contributes to loss of acceleration. TC is the only thing keeping you out of the ditch!?

Jason Fenske from Engineering Explained did a video explaining max potential 0-60 time. Tl;dw: it's about 2.0 seconds, weight is good for traction, most cars don't have enough power.

Exactly.

High frequency modulation of power to the electric motors (and thus through the tires to the surface) for traction control is the key to pushing these beasts to higher accelerations even on street tires. The Lucid Air Sapphire can hit 60 mph with street tires on plain old asphalt in 2.1 seconds. It’s the fastest production vehicle on street tires on asphalt.

 

[I <3 My Lightning]

An oldy but goodie video from a couple years ago. Perhaps the differences in WHP is the slight setup of the platinums suspension and wheels...

 

[Firn]

I also think the traction control is somewhat limiting acceleration. When the front wheels slip at all the Lightning is pretty aggressive at limiting output.

I think there is a little more the Lightning could do.

That said, @Ford Motor Company , someone us would like a performance upgrade option, even if there is a cost...

 

[GarageMahal]

What? No. Wheel spin contributes to loss of acceleration. TC is the only thing keeping you out of the ditch!?

Jason Fenske from Engineering Explained did a video explaining max potential 0-60 time. Tl;dw: it's about 2.0 seconds, weight is good for traction, most cars don't have enough power.

I think you missed my point but we are in agreement. Traction control is a wonderful thing and very much needed but turning it off demonstrates there is potential to improve 0-60 times by improving physical traction.

 

[trev5150]

I bet wiring is the limiting factor. At some point enough current will release the magic smoke. Where is that point?

The chemistry of the gel in the individual battery pouches is the limiting factor.

 

[Henry Ford]

I think you missed my point but we are in agreement. Traction control is a wonderful thing and very much needed but turning it off demonstrates there is potential to improve 0-60 times by improving physical traction.

Summer tires would be the easiest way to improve traction. Even with summer tires I don't think there is much room for improvement. +/- 4.0 seconds is incredibly fast!

 

[Henry Ford]

The chemistry of the gel in the individual battery pouches is the limiting factor.

Can you expand on this? I understand heat but chemistry might as well be witchcraft.

 

[jetfixr1]

An oldy but goodie video from a couple years ago. Perhaps the differences in WHP is the slight setup of the platinums suspension and wheels...

WOW! Im geeking out with this video. I had just been talking to my buddy that owns a shop with a dyno and we were messing around wondering how the Lightning would do on the dyno.

 

[Firn]

The chemistry of the gel in the individual battery pouches is the limiting factor.

I disagree. They HAVE to limit power between the battery and the motors, if it was a direct connection to the battery, drawing as much as the pouce could handle, it would be very likely to cause a Runaway. Lithium batteries will happily give more power than they themselves can handle.

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