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Ok, I have a new one to add. After watching the Out of Spec Review - the charging menu on the Lightning needs more work. It just shows a percentage. It needs to show how many KW/h the vehicle is charging at. This is important because different chargers have different speeds, and it is not immediately apparent when you plug in. It would suck to plug into a slow charger at a lot, and think you were plugged into a fast one. That could ruin your road trip real fast.

Ford, add lots of charging details to the menus. Just a percentage charge on the screen is not enough.
I think this is one of the most important software features that needs added. I guess it hides the mess many chargers are in right now but it is critical to know what you are getting into car to plan stops especially since the charge rate changes as the battery hits different percentage levels.
 
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Items like this are where I continue to monitor to see if Ford is going to listen and respond to the consumer. Every tiny detail about that charging session is known in the truck. If we make requests for more info, will Ford simply update a GUI and add that information for us? I hope so.

Tesla honestly just started to shine in this area about a year ago. The car always displayed all of the info, but now it is available in the app too - you can control the charge session from anywhere and know what the charge session is doing.

It's just info to the consumer where the consumer needs it - on the dash and in the app. They could have interns make these kind of updates.
Realistically, this is why API access is so critical. Third parties can make apps that work with the API and Tesla does not have to do anything other than provide access to the API. That is free "work" for them.

I think Ford (and all other car manufacturers) need to do this, but culturally they are blind to this need. They have not been in the software space long enough to see the benefits of things like an Open API; which is ironic, given that's what makes the internet work.
 

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And likely impossible for 2022 MY due to necessary hardware changes.
I am asking for the SW upgrade/feature, as I have not read that there is a need, nor a plan to upgrade the MY2023 HW, and am assuming it is the same a MY2022 (but OS change not possible OTA). Can you point to a source for this HW change?
 

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I am asking for the SW upgrade/feature, as I have not read that there is a need, nor a plan to upgrade the MY2023 HW, and am assuming it is the same a MY2022 (but OS change not possible OTA). Can you point to a source for this HW change?
No source - just guessing that they would likely have a different chipset for Android Automotive.
 

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No source - just guessing that they would likely have a different chipset for Android Automotive.
One would assume so, however, with MY2023 production starting soonish, they would have to change it back while still sorting the SW (assuming it is not done in time). Seems high risk, and much easier to just use the same HW.

Does anyone know what chipset is in the current 15" console?
 

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Realistically, this is why API access is so critical. Third parties can make apps that work with the API and Tesla does not have to do anything other than provide access to the API. That is free "work" for them.

I think Ford (and all other car manufacturers) need to do this, but culturally they are blind to this need. They have not been in the software space long enough to see the benefits of things like an Open API; which is ironic, given that's what makes the internet work.
You nailed it - Ford needs to expose or create the API. I've reached out to the owner/developer of both Teslafi and Teslamate and neither want anything to do with Ford at this point. Truly they've noted there isn't enough demand to make their time worth it.

Back on the sister forum f150gen14 there are two tools with some ad hoc development going on. One is focused on an Android app and one is for iOS devices.

Currently they support all Ford vehicles, door locks, status, gas, tire pressure, lighting, etc. Ford just changed the backend API and it broke the iOS widget this week. That developer thinks he has it almost repaired and fixed up.

I'm hoping/banking on one of these guys being able to continue their work and find more and more, perhaps charging info that we are talking about in the data stream or a new API and they will be able to quickly include it.

I'm an Apple guy, so as soon as I get my truck in a few weeks I'll engage with the developer a little more to see what he has access to and might be able to enhance his app/widget.
 

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I am asking for the SW upgrade/feature, as I have not read that there is a need, nor a plan to upgrade the MY2023 HW, and am assuming it is the same a MY2022 (but OS change not possible OTA). Can you point to a source for this HW change?
https://9to5google.com/2022/04/26/ford-android-automotive-delay-2023/
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“Another important bit of information Ford confirmed is that existing Ford vehicles will not be able to upgrade to Android Automotive. That includes this first batch of F-150 Lightning models, which will ship with Ford’s Sync 4 platform. Meanwhile, 2023 models will ship with Android Automotive, as will future Ford vehicles.”
 

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You nailed it - Ford needs to expose or create the API. I've reached out to the owner/developer of both Teslafi and Teslamate and neither want anything to do with Ford at this point. Truly they've noted there isn't enough demand to make their time worth it.
if you were a developer what gets your attention,
tesla, has made short of 2 mil electric cars
ford 30k by end of year - even if I’m off 40k, what % care.

it will come, just not too soon.
 

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https://9to5google.com/2022/04/26/ford-android-automotive-delay-2023/
Last paragraph:
“Another important bit of information Ford confirmed is that existing Ford vehicles will not be able to upgrade to Android Automotive. That includes this first batch of F-150 Lightning models, which will ship with Ford’s Sync 4 platform. Meanwhile, 2023 models will ship with Android Automotive, as will future Ford vehicles.”
I saw this as well, and don't undertsand why, assuming the same HW, hence the ask. Maybe it will require a trip to the dealer, and Ford does not want to pay for it?
 
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if you were a developer what gets your attention,
tesla, has made short of 2 mil electric cars
ford 30k by end of year - even if I’m off 40k, what % care.

it will come, just not too soon.
Yeah I get that, it is why I was thinking someone like Teslafi who is well established with 18K users would have GUI and Web that might be easily migrated to a new platform, just tap into the API, or what there is of an API today. Use their established platform to Ford and then grow from there. That is how they got their start with Tesla. This was a small side venture for these guys when they started. However still very small - but 18K users at $50/year they've got quite a nice business started. I was just hoping they were ready to expand. :)
 

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I saw this as well, and don't undertsand why, assuming the same HW, hence the ask. Maybe it will require a trip to the dealer, and Ford does not want to pay for it?
If they say the 2022 isn’t able to upgrade to it, I’d assume it may not exactly be the same hw. Doesn’t really matter if it is or isn’t. Then it might not be a visit to the dealer to get it installed either because Ford says it isn’t supported. Apple doesn’t want me installing MacOS on hardware they didn’t create, even if it can be installed on generic pc parts and work. That could be in the partnership Google and Ford have. Not having android auto for 2022 isn’t a concern enough for me to consider why it is or isn’t able to install or not. I’m sure if there’s a way to get it installed someone will jailbreak it at the expense of their warranty or support. Would need to wait to have an actual truck with the hardware and software. Really just speculation until then.
 

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If they say the 2022 isn’t able to upgrade to it, I’d assume it may not exactly be the same hw. Doesn’t really matter if it is or isn’t. Then it might not be a visit to the dealer to get it installed either because Ford says it isn’t supported. Apple doesn’t want me installing MacOS on hardware they didn’t create, even if it can be installed on generic pc parts and work. That could be in the partnership Google and Ford have. Not having android auto for 2022 isn’t a concern enough for me to consider why it is or isn’t able to install or not. I’m sure if there’s a way to get it installed someone will jailbreak it at the expense of their warranty or support. Would need to wait to have an actual truck with the hardware and software. Really just speculation until then.
Considering the thread, I had to ask...
 
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Considering the thread, I had to ask...
True! It really is software!

My guess is that Sync 4 runs on some hardware that isn't compatible with Android Auto - or it would cost too much to port, and the 2023 MY will be built with hardware specific to Android Auto

Edit:
I just did some Googling, and it seems that Sync 4 is based on Microsoft's Embedded Automotive, or at least some sort of Fork of it. Android Auto seems designed to run specifically on NVidia hardware and chips emulating a cell phone, so that is probably the core reason.

Edit again - Sync 4 runs on a version of QNX, not Microsoft. So both are UNIX derivates, but the hardware is different.
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