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What is the difference between the Lariat steering wheel and the steering wheel in the XLT+? I thought both are heated and leather wrapped.
Not 100 percent sure to be honest, the Lariat is just listed as "premium" leather wrapped. I have been trying but haven't had a chance to sit in a Lariat to check it out. I believe it is higher quality leather and more padding.
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To be honest I haven’t tried the winter mode and from the manual I don’t see what exactly it does. A few other forums mention warming the battery on the way to a super charger so it can charge faster when there if you have the navigation going to the charger. And others say that the battery heater will turn on when the battery temp is below a certain level but only while actively charging. Nothing in the manual shows setting the departure time will turn it on. I can set the interior warm up for the departure time though.
 

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have you noticed a difference if its plugged in and pre conditioned outside vs inside?
I’ve only set the departure time once and then forgot to turn it on. Nothing mentions pre conditioning the battery, only the inside temp, defrost and heated steering wheel. I’ve just noticed the drop from driving outside vs in the garage that isn’t heated so still down to 45-50 sometimes.
 

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Wait, power sliding rear window and garage door opener are not available on XLT+ ? Who the heck is going to buy a Lightning without a garage? Dumb on Fords part. I'm kind of upset about that. Guess I could do without the window though.
I'm confused by the concern over the garage door opener. I agree that a built in opener would be nice but I assume all garage door openers come with remote controls. We keep those in our cars, which admittedly are older cars. Other than the convenience of not having a remote in the car, does a built in opener have other advantages that I am not thinking of?
 

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I'm confused by the concern over the garage door opener. I agree that a built in opener would be nice but I assume all garage door openers come with remote controls. We keep those in our cars, which admittedly are older cars. Other than the convenience of not having a remote in the car, does a built in opener have other advantages that I am not thinking of?
Most of my cars have come with factory installed homelink hardware and I have never been able to get it to work. Instead I use the garage door openers, which are pretty small and unobtrusive.
 
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I'm confused by the concern over the garage door opener. I agree that a built in opener would be nice but I assume all garage door openers come with remote controls. We keep those in our cars, which admittedly are older cars. Other than the convenience of not having a remote in the car, does a built in opener have other advantages that I am not thinking of?
Built in openers are not portable. Someone breaks into the car and grabs the portable one they usually have direct access into the home not just the garage. Sure everything can be reprogrammed eventually but if the vehicle is parked outside or someone does just a little planning it is a simple way into your home.
 

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Built in openers are not portable. Someone breaks into the car and grabs the portable one they usually have direct access into the home not just the garage. Sure everything can be reprogrammed eventually but if the vehicle is parked outside or someone does just a little planning it is a simple way into your home.
If you are that concerned with security, why not just get a manual garage door?
 

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I'm confused by the concern over the garage door opener. I agree that a built in opener would be nice but I assume all garage door openers come with remote controls. We keep those in our cars, which admittedly are older cars. Other than the convenience of not having a remote in the car, does a built in opener have other advantages that I am not thinking of?
It's just such a basic feature I'm surprised they're leaving it out. I don't like having extra stuff in my vehicle if I don't need it, it's just nicer built-in. I don't like putting the remote on the visor because whenever I use the visor it falls off creating a safety hazard when I'm already blinded by the sun, or if anything just annoys me. And if it's in a cup holder or some other cubby, it's just unnecessary clutter.

Just preference. But it seems like a cheap feature that doesn't make much sense to deprive an XLT of, which is already not a base-level trim.
 

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It's just such a basic feature I'm surprised they're leaving it out. I don't like having extra stuff in my vehicle if I don't need it, it's just nicer built-in. I don't like putting the remote on the visor because whenever I use the visor it falls off creating a safety hazard when I'm already blinded by the sun, or if anything just annoys me. And if it's in a cup holder or some other cubby, it's just unnecessary clutter.

Just preference. But it seems like a cheap feature that doesn't make much sense to deprive an XLT of, which is already not a base-level trim.
I agree that it seems pretty basic. My remote rattled in the ash tray for years. I finally added some weather strips in the ash tray to cushion it so it wouldn't rattle. Built in would be nice.

I just checked and confirmed that my bronco didn't come with it unless I had upgraded to the highest features package, the lux package, which wasn't available on the trim level I chose. I guess Ford needs to hold back some features to get people to order the higher end trim levels.
 

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Just preference. But it seems like a cheap feature that doesn't make much sense to deprive an XLT of, which is already not a base-level trim.
If it's true that Homelink isn't available on the XLT, because everybody is guessing at this point because an order guide isn't out, it isn't available on the ICE XLT truck either.
 

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If it's true that Homelink isn't available on the XLT, because everybody is guessing at this point because an order guide isn't out, it isn't available on the ICE XLT truck either.
I'm not sure we can use the ICE XLT as a comparison... A friend of mine has an XLT 302A, and I'm pretty sure it has the rear power sliding window, which was mentioned here is not available on the Lightning XLT Premium.

Also odd to me that the ICE and Lightning variants have different features for the same trim levels.
 

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It's just such a basic feature I'm surprised they're leaving it out. I don't like having extra stuff in my vehicle if I don't need it, it's just nicer built-in. I don't like putting the remote on the visor because whenever I use the visor it falls off creating a safety hazard when I'm already blinded by the sun, or if anything just annoys me. And if it's in a cup holder or some other cubby, it's just unnecessary clutter.

Just preference. But it seems like a cheap feature that doesn't make much sense to deprive an XLT of, which is already not a base-level trim.
To be fair, as someone who has never had a garage, that extra bump on the visor always seemed a little annoying to me. Much rather not have it.
 

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Homelink charges a licensing fee to the manufactures. It might be a $20 part, but the licensing fee might be another $50. That’s why Tesla removed it from the Model 3 and Model Y. It will cost you $300 to add it to those vehicles. Maybe ford wil offer some type of aftermarket or dealer installed option for a similar price on the XLT trim.
 

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Homelink charges a licensing fee to the manufactures. It might be a $20 part, but the licensing fee might be another $50. That’s why Tesla removed it from the Model 3 and Model Y. It will cost you $300 to add it to those vehicles. Maybe ford wil offer some type of aftermarket or dealer installed option for a similar price on the XLT trim.
I never managed to get homelink to work properly in my first Tesla so when I discovered the next Tesla car I purchased in 2019 didn't have it, I didn't really care that it was gone.
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