Ford's epic Lightning bait-and-switch is complete (the official "I'm out" thread).

[xtraman122]

Plenty. More than a few. = Massive.

Forums = perception amplification
I understand the phenomenon. But I don't think the reality in the field supports it.

I have to agree. I've heard of very few actual issues. Saw one or two people that needed transmissions swaps, but not some chronic issue causing recalls etc. Viewing one of these forums gives such a jaded view because you're only witnessing an extremely limited number of the over all owners, and that audience is generally skewed more towards the ones specifically having issues because they come to places like these for help or to air their grievances.

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[EaglesPDX]

I’ve read of plenty of powerboost lemon buy backs

MachE doesn't have a Powerboost engine, that is on F150Hybrid. Which is another huge success for Ford in the EV area.

Guess it's a case of what you've read and facts on the ground.

 

[Snakebitten]

There's one fella on here that has the unfortunate experience of a Powerboost that has a serious ProPower onboard issue and the dealerships are of no help to him. The 7.2KW generator function was his main reason for buying the truck, so you can imagine his disappointment and ire, at this point.
He has posted often and in various threads and has every right to. But if you weren't paying attention, you might think that you have read about several Powerboost trucks suffering from the exact same malady.

So yea, forums amplify

 

[Mike G]

Dont get me wrong, I love my F150, and got a trouble free (so far) 21’ platinum diesel…

Your Platinum diesel is going to be rare. My salesman told me they've discontinued it for next year. That was a short run for the diesel option wasn't it?

Mike

 

[Sklith]

I didn't know there would be many customers cross-shopping a full size pickup with a hatchback. I didn't know anybody in 2022 would consider buying a Leaf since it doesn't even have a liquid cooled battery. I didn't know someone would confuse kW(power) and kWh(energy).

 

[Platinum Peasant]

Your Platinum diesel is going to be rare. My salesman told me they've discontinued it for next year. That was a short run for the diesel option wasn't it?

Mike

yeah it was a short run but I’m glad they did it at least for the time that they did. Won’t be selling mine at all. It’s an amazing engine.

 

[Platinum Peasant]

MachE doesn't have a Powerboost engine, that is on F150Hybrid. Which is another huge success for Ford in the EV area.

Guess it's a case of what you've read and facts on the ground.

The Mach-e is having its own electrical and software issues too bud. Popularity doesn’t mean it’s a good quality vehicle.

 

[vandy1981]

The Mach-e is having its own electrical and software issues too bud. Popularity doesn’t mean it’s a good quality vehicle.

I'd be willing to bet that the average MY2022 Lightning is going to have a lot fewer mechanical issues and be less expensive to maintain over the next 8 years than any MY2022 Ecoboost.

 

[Platinum Peasant]

I'd be willing to bet that the average MY2022 Lightning is going to have a lot fewer mechanical issues and be less expensive to maintain over the next 8 years than any MY2022 Ecoboost.

My fully loaded platinum diesel is $28000 cheaper than a lightning platinum, not counting the mark up’s the dealer is gonna hit you with. Good luck ever making up that difference! I’ll take occasional oil change instead, thanks. ??

 

[EaglesPDX]

The Mach-e is having its own electrical and software issues too bud.

None really reported.

"We expect the 2022 Mustang Mach-E will be more reliable than the average new car. This prediction is based on data from 2021 models." Consumer Reports.

 

[EaglesPDX]

I didn't know there would be many customers cross-shopping a full size pickup with a hatchback.

MachE was brought up in reply to someone who questioned Ford's ability to produce a reliable EV. MachE has been a star. So will F150 EV.

 

[Platinum Peasant]

None really reported.

"We expect the 2022 Mustang Mach-E will be more reliable than the average new car. This prediction is based on data from 2021 models." Consumer Reports.

The 2022 Ford Mustang Mach-E has a predicted reliability score of 60 out of 100. A J.D. Power predicted reliability score of 91-100 is considered the Best, 81-90 is Great, 70-80 is Average, and 0-69 is Fair and considered below average. - JD Power

Don’t be surprised when dealers tell you your lighting is “unfixable” like they told this Mach E owner. Some dealer don’t even know how to diagnose and fix powerboost problems. I’m sure the lighting will be easier tho! ?

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ford-dealer-tells-owner-mustang-mach-e-issues-unfixable/?amp

 

[EaglesPDX]

Don’t be surprised when dealers tell you your lighting is “unfixable” like they told this Mach E owner.

That MachE beats ALL Teslas on EV reliability in its first mainstream EV answers the question whether we can trust Ford to build an F150EV.

"Among electric SUVs, Fisher said Ford Motor Co's Mustang Mach-E "is the only one with above-average reliability." Consumer Reports recommends the Tesla Model 3 sedan and rates its reliability as "average." But Fisher said the rest of Tesla's vehicles are below average"

"The Success Of The Mustang Mach-E Is Forcing Ford To Adjust Its Production Plans"

"Revealing The Ford Mustang Mach-E's Recipe For Success

 

[Platinum Peasant]

That MachE beats ALL Teslas on EV reliability in its first mainstream EV answers the question whether we can trust Ford to build an F150EV.

"Among electric SUVs, Fisher said Ford Motor Co's Mustang Mach-E "is the only one with above-average reliability." Consumer Reports recommends the Tesla Model 3 sedan and rates its reliability as "average." But Fisher said the rest of Tesla's vehicles are below average"

"The Success Of The Mustang Mach-E Is Forcing Ford To Adjust Its Production Plans"

"Revealing The Ford Mustang Mach-E's Recipe For Success

Would you look at that! Above overage! ? like I said before, popularity doesn’t equal reliability. And despite Teslas quality control issues, they are miles ahead of Ford in the EV game, especially in reliability.

Ford can’t even get software and OTA updates down right and you want me to believe the fantasy that they can just whip up a reliable EV, one that requires even more software? (among other things)

im sure these Mach E owners would agree with you tho:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/paak-is-now-brick.8651/

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-e-charging-issue-bricking/amp/

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...tang-mach-e-deep-sleep-12v-battery-jump-start

Very ”reliable” ???

Fun fact too: Consumer Reports is a joke. The way they determine if a car is “reliable” is flawed.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/how-car-reliability-reports-can-be-misleading/?amp

So the answer to my original rhetorical question is unchanged: no, Ford cannot be trusted to make a reliable EV. Not yet anyways.

 

[MickeyAO]

So the answer to my original rhetorical question is unchanged: no, Ford cannot be trusted to make a reliable EV. Not yet anyways.

Then why are you here? Are you looking forward to getting the Lighting or are you just here to troll as your form of entertainment?

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