Let's Talk About the other EVSE included with the Lighting

[RonTCat]

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten...ning/pdf/FordChargeStationPro-Specs_06_v2.pdf

This should work from 20 to 80 amps.

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[RickLightning]

Yeah I'm looking for a mobile 40A, I don't want to leave the charger hanging outside my house.

Why? They lock to a post or wall and are weatherproof.

 

[biers]

It's actually 28 per people who use it and measured.

I thought Tom from InsideEVs said it was labeled 32A but real world 30A?

 

[sotek2345]

I will say the Ford Mobile EVSE has been a lifesaver for our Mach-e this last week. Our Grizzl-e 40A EVSE had a fault and we have been relying on the Ford mobile charger on a 110V (L1) circuit to keep the car charged while we wait for a replacement to arrive. It is very stressful and can't quite cover daily commuting usage in the winter, but without it, our Mach-e would have been grounded for a week (or we would have to be running around to fast chargers on a daily basis).

Backups are a very good thing!

 

[Sklith]

So if you order the ER you get both chargers? I had assumed they’d replace the the lower amp one with the charge station pro rather than providing both.

The 30A charger is considered a mobile one. You can bring it to a friend/family's house or hotel. I've managed to find 3 hotels along my travels where they had 14-50 outlets instead of dedicated charging hardware.

 

[Prime8]

Does anyone know if there are more adaptors available for the mobile power cord. I have a nema 6-50 outlet. I know the tesla unit has a 6-50 adaptor and the Ford unit has swappable 110 and 14-50 plugs, seems it would make sense to have more flexibility with the adaptors..

 

[Pioneer74]

Does anyone know if there are more adaptors available for the mobile power cord. I have a nema 6-50 outlet. I know the tesla unit has a 6-50 adaptor and the Ford unit has swappable 110 and 14-50 plugs, seems it would make sense to have more flexibility with the adaptors..

How would a 6-50 adaptor work when there is no neutral on a 6-50 socket?

 

[adoublee]

How would a 6-50 adaptor work when there is no neutral on a 6-50 socket?

The charging is balanced 240V, so reality is that there should not be any current flowing back to the panel on the neutral. That said, the charger electronics may look for the neutral presence to establish what voltage is connected. Some might cheat and find another connection that point that has a potential equal to the neutral, but I'm not suggesting that is or isn't code compliant.

 

[adoublee]

I know Tom from InsideEV confirmed the 80A Pro charge level is adjustable. Do we know yet if charge rate is adjustable at the truck such that vehicle would not draw more than 24A/2.88kW if connected to a campsite NEMA TT-30 outlet via a 14-50 to TT-30 adapter? Obviously a campsite with a 14-50 would be much preferred, but in a pinch it is good to have highest power options.

 

[RickLightning]

I thought Tom from InsideEVs said it was labeled 32A but real world 30A?

Just telling you what people who use it have posted. Of course a 7% difference, if it was really 30 vs. 28, is not much. I have my charger set at 32 amps for the Mach-E, but can raise it to 48 amps in the app. On the truck, a 28 or 30 amp charger would not be acceptable to me, I'd use 48.

 

[pstansel]

Why? They lock to a post or wall and are weatherproof.

If I was going to do that I'd probably just do the Ford charger since I get it free. Have to think about it. The cable on the Ford charger may not be long enough for my needs.

 

[FordLightningMan]

Just got the email to order the Ford Charge Station Pro. The email notes I ordered a standard range Lightning, so it's definitely targeted from Ford.

$1,310 for the unit. It says right on the website you can change the Amps to meet your home's specific needs. I don't think I want to pay for backup to the whole home, but I am curious what this will cost before that decision is final. I need to decide if I want the Ford charger, or if I go with a third party at half the price.

 

[frautumn]

You can use either. You switch the plug end for the voltage you want to use.

The video you linked says that the 240 charger gets "about 20 miles per hour of charge", but the email I just got from Ford says "The 30-amp Ford Mobile Power Cord is included with all models. It’s portable so you can use it at home or take it with you when you travel. It’s estimated to add an average of 13 miles of range per charging hour on a 240V NEMA 14-50 outlet".

So which is it, 20 miles or 13? That's a pretty big difference.

 

[Pioneer74]

The video you linked says that the 240 charger gets "about 20 miles per hour of charge", but the email I just got from Ford says "The 30-amp Ford Mobile Power Cord is included with all models. It’s portable so you can use it at home or take it with you when you travel. It’s estimated to add an average of 13 miles of range per charging hour on a 240V NEMA 14-50 outlet".

So which is it, 20 miles or 13? That's a pretty big difference.

The video is for a Mach-E. The battery is bigger in a Lightning and will get worse mileage, so the 13 number is right.

 

[adoublee]

Just got the email to order the Ford Charge Station Pro. The email notes I ordered a standard range Lightning, so it's definitely targeted from Ford.

$1,310 for the unit. It says right on the website you can change the Amps to meet your home's specific needs. I don't think I want to pay for backup to the whole home, but I am curious what this will cost before that decision is final. I need to decide if I want the Ford charger, or if I go with a third party at half the price.

So much for Tom Moloughney's estimate of $2,500 to $3,000. Although it does say sold out.

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