Scheduled Charging Issues(preferred charge locations)

[parabellum85]

Is anyone else having issues with the charging if you have a schedule setup? I have home setup as a preferred charge location with setting to charge only between 9pm and 7am. I will come out in the morning and it would not have charged at all. If I turn off the preferred charge locations it will charge fine but will immediately begin once plugged in.

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[beatle]

I think configuring charging on the Lightning is pretty convoluted. To help troubleshoot though, you can try adjusting your charging window to a time close to your current time and see if it will kick off the charging session during the start of the window. It should start charging at the start of the window. Did you try plugging in after 9pm? It should start charging right away since you'd still be within your window. Perhaps it thinks you're not actually at home? Are there any entries in the charging log?

 

[RainorshinePNW]

I thought I was having an issue with my set schedule, but am doing a bit more testing. I have my home FCSP set to only charge 11pm to 7am with a target of 90%, but when I plugged in last night at about 25% around 9pm it started charging right away. I then got a notification from the app saying it "must" charge outside my preferred times due to my "charge settings". When I touched the notification it took me to a Message in the app which basically repeated the same thing, but mentioned "charge settings, LIKE DEPARTURE TIME", except I don't have any departure times set. The only thing I could think of is that I do have my FCSP limited to 60 amps in the app, so it was thinking it NEEDED to charge outside my preferred times to reach 90% from 25% at 60 amps by 7am?

 

[VTbuckeye]

I thought I was having an issue with my set schedule, but am doing a bit more testing. I have my home FCSP set to only charge 11pm to 7am with a target of 90%, but when I plugged in last night at about 25% around 9pm it started charging right away. I then got a notification from the app saying it "must" charge outside my preferred times due to my "charge settings". When I touched the notification it took me to a Message in the app which basically repeated the same thing, but mentioned "charge settings, LIKE DEPARTURE TIME", except I don't have any departure times set. The only thing I could think of is that I do have my FCSP limited to 60 amps in the app, so it was thinking it NEEDED to charge outside my preferred times to reach 90% from 25% at 60 amps by 7am?

Like it is overthinking the situation. What it thinks is "I need to charge to 90 percent by 7am". What you want is charge between 11. Pm and 7am. Don't charge to greater than 90 percent.

I don't have the truck or fcsp yet. Do they "talk to each other" to coordinate charging? I envision using my current evse set to charge between 9pm and 1pm. The truck won't activate it in the off times. I hope that I can set the truck to charge to 80 or 90 percent as default everywhere (I'll change it for specific occasions when necessary). Our bolt and Volvo EV had/have a set target charge level that is not dependent on location.

 

[beatle]

Sounds like it is prioritizing your desired charge percentage by the end of your window instead of respecting the window.

It would be nice if you could set a default percentage for all locations without having to set it manually as a preferred location. I don't want the truck trying to charge to 100% every time I plug in.

The EVSE shouldn't be involved with the charging; it should be "always on." The truck should control all of it and only pull electricity when it needs to based on your settings.

 

[parabellum85]

So I changed my charge scheduled to all the time to get it charged back up then I cleared my charge location and completely reset it up and so far it has been charging correctly the last two nights. Will see how long that lasts.

 

[duncanmaio]

The EVSE shouldn't be involved with the charging; it should be "always on." The truck should control all of it and only pull electricity when it needs to based on your settings.

Time-of-use charging is between the utility and the EVSE (at least for my setup - the utility talks to my Chargepoint charger to know how much power the EVSE is using and when). So the EVSE knows not to charge until the rates go down.

I can't tell the truck to only charge after 9:00 pm on weekdays, because I often want to plug in at work (where time of use doesn't matter) during the day.

 

[RickLightning]

I thought I was having an issue with my set schedule, but am doing a bit more testing. I have my home FCSP set to only charge 11pm to 7am with a target of 90%, but when I plugged in last night at about 25% around 9pm it started charging right away. I then got a notification from the app saying it "must" charge outside my preferred times due to my "charge settings". When I touched the notification it took me to a Message in the app which basically repeated the same thing, but mentioned "charge settings, LIKE DEPARTURE TIME", except I don't have any departure times set. The only thing I could think of is that I do have my FCSP limited to 60 amps in the app, so it was thinking it NEEDED to charge outside my preferred times to reach 90% from 25% at 60 amps by 7am?

Yes.

If it thinks it cannot reach the set level in the set time, it will start earlier / immediately. There is NO way around that except to lower the final percentage number.

 

[RainorshinePNW]

Yes.

If it thinks it cannot reach the set level in the set time, it will start earlier / immediately. There is NO way around that except to lower the final percentage number.

Thanks. That makes sense, though I wasn't expecting it to account for the slower charge speed at a lowered amperage setting in the app, vs via the switch in the FCSP. If it's smart enough to account for that, seems even more silly we can't see ANYWHERE in the app or in the truck what the actual charge speed is when charging at home/via the FCSP- clearly it's taking that into account, so the info must be there.

 

[RickLightning]

Thanks. That makes sense, though I wasn't expecting it to account for the slower charge speed at a lowered amperage setting in the app, vs via the switch in the FCSP. If it's smart enough to account for that, seems even more silly we can't see ANYWHERE in the app or in the truck what the actual charge speed is when charging at home/via the FCSP- clearly it's taking that into account, so the info must be there.

You assume intelligence where there may not be any.

You have a 10 hour charge period. If the truck was totally empty, was there enough time to charge at the normal setting?

 

[RainorshinePNW]

You assume intelligence where there may not be any.

You have a 10 hour charge period. If the truck was totally empty, was there enough time to charge at the normal setting?

15-100% for the ER with the FCSP at 80 amps is "about" 8 hours (per the Ford graphic comparing the different charges and SR vs ER). So I'd presume 9-10 hours at 80 amps should be enough to go from 0-100. Having that reduced by 25% down to 60 amps should, in theory, increase charge duration needed by 25%? So "about" 10 hours, from the original 8, to go from 15-100?

 

[RickLightning]

Guess you missed the part about "assumed intelligence as you went and applied intelligence...

Going from 80amps to 60amps is indeed a 25% reduction. But you have the math wrong on the hours. If you have a 25% reduction in charging speed, it then takes you 33% longer to get to the goal...

So if 8 hours was exactly right, it would take 8*1.33=10.67 hours to charge. You are allotting 10 hours. Therefore, it can't get there in time.

 

[hturnerfamily]

My KIA PHEV allows for 'timed' charging, and while I have it set to charge between 11pm and 7am, I can also overcome that and charge at any time by pressing the charge button located next to the J1772 inlet. I'm not sure if the LIGHTNING provides the same override, but it's certainly something that should be a part of any EV.

 

[RickLightning]

My KIA PHEV allows for 'timed' charging, and while I have it set to charge between 11pm and 7am, I can also overcome that and charge at any time by pressing the charge button located next to the J1772 inlet. I'm not sure if the LIGHTNING provides the same override, but it's certainly something that should be a part of any EV.

FordPass lets you do that, yes.

 

[parabellum85]

Well it charged for 2 nights fine however I got up this morning to find out it has not charged at all again. Ford really needs to fix this how can you rely on a vehicle that will not charge consistently.

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