Tesla Supercharger access for Ford EVs estimated to begin February 2024 (by Tesla)

[richl025]

V2 doesn't support the protocols the CCS vehicles need to communicate. Unless Tesla retrofits them, we can only charge on V3 and V4 stations.

How can you tell which is a V2 versus V3+ charger?

When I go to Tesla's website, the only data I see is "150 kW" -which, given how sluggish EA is, seems pretty fast to me ...

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[Zprime29]

How can you tell which is a V2 versus V3+ charger?

When I go to Tesla's website, the only data I see is "150 kW" -which, given how sluggish EA is, seems pretty fast to me ...

V2 are 150kW, V3 are 250kW

 

[TheWoo]

How can you tell which is a V2 versus V3+ charger?

When I go to Tesla's website, the only data I see is "150 kW" -which, given how sluggish EA is, seems pretty fast to me ...

150 kW stations are V2. V3+ are 250 kW. That's the only way to tell as far as I know.

 

[EVmeritus]

Having an adapter is nice, but if the cable is not long enough to make the connection to the vehicle how are we going to use it. Does anyone have the specs on the V3 / V4 cable length on the Tesla charger? The videos i've seen about the magic dock and the lightning don't seem to have addressed this issue. Taking up two supercharger parking spots is not going to go over well.

 

[3121]

I think the adapter will probably be a 5-10ft cord... it hope it is at least

 

[davehu]

Having an adapter is nice, but if the cable is not long enough to make the connection to the vehicle how are we going to use it. Does anyone have the specs on the V3 / V4 cable length on the Tesla charger? The videos i've seen about the magic dock and the lightning don't seem to have addressed this issue. Taking up two supercharger parking spots is not going to go over well.

good question. the adaptor someone linked to earlier in this thread is a simple adaptor, no cable included. I know Tesla's port is in the rear of the drivers side, so seems like must back in to get close and I can see that could be a problem for us. Perhaps a Tesla owner can help us out on this thread

 

[carys98]

Having an adapter is nice, but if the cable is not long enough to make the connection to the vehicle how are we going to use it. Does anyone have the specs on the V3 / V4 cable length on the Tesla charger? The videos i've seen about the magic dock and the lightning don't seem to have addressed this issue. Taking up two supercharger parking spots is not going to go over well.

good question. the adaptor someone linked to earlier in this thread is a simple adaptor, no cable included. I know Tesla's port is in the rear of the drivers side, so seems like must back in to get close and I can see that could be a problem for us. Perhaps a Tesla owner can help us out on this thread

The V4 cables are longer. Also, Tesla is removing the bollards from a lot of their stations because the cables are too short to reach the Cybertruck. The front camera is going to be essential in pulling into superchargers.

 

[carys98]

150 kW stations are V2. V3+ are 250 kW. That's the only way to tell as far as I know.

Visually you can tell the difference. V2s have a silver ring around the cable just below the connectors. The V3 does not. Ford chose to park at a V2 for the picture they used to announce the deal.

 

[TheWoo]

Visually you can tell the difference. V2s have a silver ring around the cable just below the connectors. The V3 does not. Ford chose to park at a V2 for the picture they used to announce the deal.

There's a couple ways to tell when you are actually looking. The actual charger boxes are telling, too. Online, though (say, in Plug Share or supercharger.info) the wattage is the only way to filter in order to see what will be available to us. That's what I was referring to.

Hilarious by Ford to use a supercharger for a photo shoot at which they'll never be able to charge.

 

[ZSC100]

wow, this is great news. I'm in Hot Springs AR and we have family in both Dallas and Houston and I can't make it to Houston (7hr) in one day so we'll use my wifes ICE car. I was believing I wouldn't be able to show off Sparky (my lightning) to the family until next summer. let's hope it all works out sooner than later.

This isn't going to change anything for you, there are chargers already on the route for you that will charge your truck at the maximum rate. This is only going to be clutch for a few people who want to road trip a lot and improvise. I've driven my truck all over the midwest and had zero problems, other than the occasional slow (50kW) rate of charge, but I have a friend with a Tesla in Tulsa and he gets under 50kW at both of our superchargers routinely. He has grandfathered free supercharging so I suspect that has something to do with it. That would be just like Tesla to reduce his speed b/c he is charging for free. I can't wait to see all the lightning owners who think this is going to make such a huge difference nationwide when they experience 50kW charge rates.

 

[ZSC100]

Visually you can tell the difference. V2s have a silver ring around the cable just below the connectors. The V3 does not. Ford chose to park at a V2 for the picture they used to announce the deal.

This alone confirms what a publicity stunt this whole agreement is. I still don't believe Ford will change the CCS plug. There's no reason to, if this works out even half as good as some are crying out we'll all have adapters. I also heard from a Ford engineer that the NACS charging port is currently planned to be an "option", that was the smartest thing I've heard to date, but I suspect it will be a very low exercised option by only previous or concurrent Tesla fan/owners.

 

[jetfixr1]

This isn't going to change anything for you, there are chargers already on the route for you that will charge your truck at the maximum rate. This is only going to be clutch for a few people who want to road trip a lot and improvise. I've driven my truck all over the midwest and had zero problems, other than the occasional slow (50kW) rate of charge, but I have a friend with a Tesla in Tulsa and he gets under 50kW at both of our superchargers routinely. He has grandfathered free supercharging so I suspect that has something to do with it. That would be just like Tesla to reduce his speed b/c he is charging for free. I can't wait to see all the lightning owners who think this is going to make such a huge difference nationwide when they experience 50kW charge rates.

I dont think Tesla would purposely throttle an EV with such a large battery, while pissing off their own customer base because superchargers are backed up with non-tesla's.

 

[ZSC100]

I dont think Tesla would purposely throttle an EV with such a large battery, while pissing off their own customer base because superchargers are backed up with non-tesla's.

No body knows what Tesla will or won't do any more than they know what Elon will or won't say LOL

I can tell you that in the DFW area Superchargers are already overwhelmed to a point that letting any other brand in IS going to be a major PR problem for Tesla. Too many people own Teslas without a way to charge where they live. This is a major problem that to date I think is only a Tesla problem.

 

[RickKeen]

good question. the adaptor someone linked to earlier in this thread is a simple adaptor, no cable included. I know Tesla's port is in the rear of the drivers side, so seems like must back in to get close and I can see that could be a problem for us. Perhaps a Tesla owner can help us out on this thread

See this photo in the other thread of an F150L at a Magic-Dock enabled Tesla Charger. Its not the greatest parking situation to reach the charge port:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...ger-ford-compatability-date.17668/post-355763

Good news is that DC extension cords also on their way.
See the other thread:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...ger-ford-compatability-date.17668/post-356067

 

[carys98]

See this photo in the other thread of an F150L at a Magic-Dock enabled Tesla Charger. Its not the greatest parking situation to reach the charge port:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...ger-ford-compatability-date.17668/post-355763

Good news is that DC extension cords also on their way.
See the other thread:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...ger-ford-compatability-date.17668/post-356067

That cable looks like it is only rated for 250A. They are careful to spec it as up to 250 kW and it is rated for 1000V. They never specify the current limit so more than likely the only way to get 250 kW is on a 1000V system. On the lightning you’ll only get around 100 kW. Also, it’s not clear how the charger or the car will know the cable is limited so there’s a risk that you could exceed the rating, maybe by as much as twice the limit. If that’s the case there’s going to be another round of news stories about EVs bursting into flames.

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