Tesla Supercharger Ford Compatability Date

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Which both Ford and Tesla are well aware of (the need).

Lectron and A2Z both have DCFC extension cables in their product pages. The Lectron version is available but the product page is plastered with "ONLY for use with Magic Dock!!!" warnings. The A2Z product page as no such warnings but the product is not yet shown as available.

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[GDN]

It’s not the cool. The hassle is much higher if you are not in a Tesla. We just did our first trip from San Antonio to Tulsa in the Lightning vs the 2018 M3P.
1. Slower charging for a larger batter. The Tesla maxes at 250kw, the Lightning at 150kw (on EA).
2. The Tesla locations are better. Our Tesla stop in Waco where there is a coffee & bakery shop with plenty of chargers and ingress/egress space was replaced with a Walmart parking lot with 90 degree spaces on a very busy isle with only 5 chargers and all were occupied. It was difficult to get the truck in the spot.
3. In Oklahoma Francis is one of the required stops and we had a charger that maxed at 40kw when the battery was at 5%.
4. 50c/kwh? Tesla superchargers are at 35c/kwh. Is there a gas station with a 50% mark up vs another brand?
5. I was hoping the range of the Lightning would be greater than a 5 year old Tesla, but the 2 stop Tesla was replaced with a 3 stop Ford.

I was hoping to be able to tow our travel trailer. This experience (I know many have had worse) really deflated it.

That is a symptom of a bad temp sensor in the cooled cable.

Coming from Tesla, you're probably not used to having bad charging experiences. But if you have a charge rate around 39kW on a low battery, switch to a different charger, or other charging handle if the unit has 2.

I'll admit you've got tough haul from Dallas up to Tulsa (on 75/69) even in a Tesla - the better route is up 35 to OKC then East to Tulsa. A new Supercharger opened 2 years ago that makes it almost doable, but it is tough. Every time Tesla opens the voting for new chargers everyone in Dallas vote for one up half way through OK toward Tulsa. However, they have quadrupled the number of chargers around DFW in the last 3 years, so they are getting to those last few charging islands they have.

As far as Francis chargers go - they don't keep them up. They are about like EA. They did a great job and blanketed OK about 4 years ago, but they don't get enough usage and they don't keep them up. I make the drive from Dallas to Shawnee (central part of the state) several times a year. I take 35 up to Davis where Francis has 4 stations, they actually get quite a bit of use for those being on 35 and they work almost all of the time. I continually check the others on 75/69 and they never get any better review's or reports of faster charging, so I just avoid them.

There was a tornado in Shawnee, OK back in the first part of '23 that damaged the Francis chargers there, they are still not fixed and back usable over 9 months later.

 

[dww]

I'll admit you've got tough haul from Dallas up to Tulsa (on 75/69) even in a Tesla - the better route is up 35 to OKC then East to Tulsa. A new Supercharger opened 2 years ago that makes it almost doable, but it is tough. Every time Tesla opens the voting for new chargers everyone in Dallas vote for one up half way through OK toward Tulsa. However, they have quadrupled the number of chargers around DFW in the last 3 years, so they are getting to those last few charging islands they have.

As far as Francis chargers go - they don't keep them up. They are about like EA. They did a great job and blanketed OK about 4 years ago, but they don't get enough usage and they don't keep them up. I make the drive from Dallas to Shawnee (central part of the state) several times a year. I take 35 up to Davis where Francis has 4 stations, they actually get quite a bit of use for those being on 35 and they work almost all of the time. I continually check the others on 75/69 and they never get any better review's or reports of faster charging, so I just avoid them.

There was a tornado in Shawnee, OK back in the first part of '23 that damaged the Francis chargers there, they are still not fixed and back usable over 9 months later.

There is a supercharger in Denison (added about a year ago) that made the SC only trip possible. I have a chademo adapter that I used to use in McAlester but I don’t need that anymore now.

On the way back I’ll top off at McAlester in the Lightning and see what charger is at the right distance in Dallas.

 

[GDN]

There is a supercharger in Denison (added about a year ago) that made the SC only trip possible. I have a chademo adapter that I used to use in McAlester but I don’t need that anymore now.

On the way back I’ll top off at McAlester in the Lightning and see what charger is at the right distance in Dallas.

The Dennison SC is what makes the trip doable now if you take it easy. Back down the road But-cee's now has SC'ers as well.

 

[JJ The Tahitian]

The news I was looking for



“NEWS: Ford and GM vehicles will gain access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers in North America in February 2024, according to Jenny Pretare, Tesla Design Manager of Charging Infrastructure.

"We're opening up to most of the other car manufacturers in stages just to make sure we don't get swamped all at once."

 

[RickLightning]

Big news!

 

[SmoothJ]

I think these current adapters, while nice and will do the job, won't help some of the supercharger stalls that have shorter cables. We need a adapter with a small extension as well.

 

[RickLightning]

I think these current adapters, while nice and will do the job, won't help some of the supercharger stalls that have shorter cables. We need a adapter with a small extension as well.

At least 2 companies will offer extension cables.

 

[Pioneer74]

The news I was looking for



“NEWS: Ford and GM vehicles will gain access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers in North America in February 2024, according to Jenny Pretare, Tesla Design Manager of Charging Infrastructure.

"We're opening up to most of the other car manufacturers in stages just to make sure we don't get swamped all at once."

She said nothing of an adapter to allow existing vehicles to use Superchargers. She says "charge port and software". That could indicate that 2025 models could start being built with the NACS connector.

 

[SmoothJ]

At least 2 companies will offer extensio cables.

Something like this but for superchargers. If so, perfect...

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-tesla-to-j1772-adapter-white

 

[Pioneer74]

Something like this but for superchargers. If so, perfect...

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-tesla-to-j1772-adapter-white

With the weight that cable would have to be, I would hope it's long enough that is can touch the ground to take the weight off the charge port.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

The news I was looking for



“NEWS: Ford and GM vehicles will gain access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers in North America in February 2024, according to Jenny Pretare, Tesla Design Manager of Charging Infrastructure.

"We're opening up to most of the other car manufacturers in stages just to make sure we don't get swamped all at once."

Figures. I have a bunch of travel in January that will total approximately 5-6,000 miles of road tripping…then nothing in Feb.

Ford and Tesla hate me.

 

[Danface]

Figures. I have a bunch of travel in January that will total approximately 5-6,000 miles of road tripping…then nothing in Feb.

Ford and Tesla hate me.

Look on the bright side, it may not be ready by February anyway!

 

[RickKeen]

Something like this but for superchargers. If so, perfect...

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-tesla-to-j1772-adapter-white

Posted this a few pages back in this thread:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...ger-ford-compatability-date.17668/post-356067

 

[RickKeen]

With the weight that cable would have to be, I would hope it's long enough that is can touch the ground to take the weight off the charge port.

For F150L, probably would be most convenient to lay the extension cable across the hood.
Hopefully would not get hot enough to damage the paint. Maybe not a good idea...

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