Received A2Z EV (NACS to CCS) adapter today

[bmwhitetx]

Kyle from Out of Spec has mentioned he's heard from Tesla employees that they're making the adaptor in house (I believe he said in New York somewhere)

They have a facility in Buffalo where they make charging equipment.

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[JRT]

I wonder if it would work at a magic dock on the tesla side with your app starting.

 

[Ffxdude]

I woneif it would work at a magic dock on the tesla side with your app starting.

I don’t think so because the app set up for non Tesla drivers automatically releases the ccs adapter.

 

[Grease Lightning]

A2Z has publicly stated on its website that it is Tesla approved. Either way it doesn't matter, I'm not new to the EV world. I've had EVs for years and am used to using various adapters and don't have a fear of it setting my car on fire. But, I've also updated every module with FDRS and consider myself an early adopter. So, of course, do what you're comfortable with. For me. I'll be at the Supercharger the day the network opens. I will trying it soon but doubtful it will work till the billing system is in place.

So where on their site does it say TESLA approved it?

They specifically say they cannot name the OEM that approved it. Guess what, OEM means BYD could have “approved” it just as much as Tesla.

Marketing is full of things that imply something, without giving you specifics to avoid getting in a legal entanglement.

 

[jetfixr1]

Kyle from Out of Spec has mentioned he's heard from Tesla employees that they're making the adaptor in house (I believe he said in New York somewhere)

I have no clue who that is but if you can provide a link that would be sweet.

 

[Lilthumper]

A2Z is simply a heavy duty adapter that should work with low amp AC to DC and high amp DC to DC. It has no tricks inside of it, it's just built to handle high current. I think OP will be just fine on Tesla DC Supercharger to CCS or Tesla AC to J1172

 

[detansinn]

A few comments...

1. You're not going to be able to use any adapter until Ford pushes a software update to your Lightning. Given how Ford pushes OTAs, I would not expect a sudden mad rush on adapters. FordPass/Plug & Charge will be the only way to use a Supercharger -- you'll need the software to do that.
2. Don't be surprised if your VIN will be required to buy the official adapter, because you won't get sold one unless you have the software to use it.
3. Tesla already has a record when it comes to third party adapters. While they seem to care little about destination chargers, they're quite protective when it comes to DC charging.
4. Most owners don't even know that this is coming. Unless you've been nerding out on EVs, only a small segment of owners are chomping at the bit here.
5. There are a lot of former and current Tesla owners on this forum. Come on, when has Tesla actually made or hit a date for anything. February comments aside, I'd expect it to be landing in Q1 with most owners not getting access to it until Q2 for all of the above reasons.
6. Given the above, I don't see any need to rush out and hoard adapters that may not even work.

 

[tnugentfl]

It says right on the main adapter page it is approved by Tesla. Tesla is not picky at all with after market adapters. I have 3 different CCS to NACS adapters I use at EA stations and the car could care less. If you read the product timeline you can see they are working with 3 USA OEMs. Either way, don't use it if you're not comfortable. I road trip, and this will be a lifesaver. Waiting for Fords and/or Tesla's adapter will be months to years and the network will be open very soon.

 

[LightningShow]

Why does it have to be approved by Tesla? Does Ford need to approve every EVSE charger for Ford vehicles to use it? All the adapter does is pass current. its some copper inside a fancy molding. We already know it works because @tommolog showed it works.

 

[dww]

A2Z is simply a heavy duty adapter that should work with low amp AC to DC and high amp DC to DC. It has no tricks inside of it, it's just built to handle high current. I think OP will be just fine on Tesla DC Supercharger to CCS or Tesla AC to J1172

It can only do DC. There would have to mechanical switching inside to do both, it does not have that. You need an adapter for AC and a different one for DC.

 

[dww]

A few comments...

1. You're not going to be able to use any adapter until Ford pushes a software update to your Lightning. Given how Ford pushes OTAs, I would not expect a sudden mad rush on adapters. FordPass/Plug & Charge will be the only way to use a Supercharger -- you'll need the software to do that.
2. Don't be surprised if your VIN will be required to buy the official adapter, because you won't get sold one unless you have the software to use it.
3. Tesla already has a record when it comes to third party adapters. While they seem to care little about destination chargers, they're quite protective when it comes to DC charging.
4. Most owners don't even know that this is coming. Unless you've been nerding out on EVs, only a small segment of owners are chomping at the bit here.
5. There are a lot of former and current Tesla owners on this forum. Come on, when has Tesla actually made or hit a date for anything. February comments aside, I'd expect it to be landing in Q1 with most owners not getting access to it until Q2 for all of the above reasons.
6. Given the above, I don't see any need to rush out and hoard adapters that may not even work.

What software push did Ford send to allow Lightening/MachE to work at magicDoc superchargers? The only software needed is on the Tesla side.

 

[detansinn]

What software push did Ford send to allow Lightening/MachE to work at magicDoc superchargers? The only software needed is on the Tesla side.

Part of the deal for NACS is that the vehicles must support plug n charge for the Tesla experience.

 

[jetfixr1]

A few comments...

1. You're not going to be able to use any adapter until Ford pushes a software update to your Lightning. Given how Ford pushes OTAs, I would not expect a sudden mad rush on adapters. FordPass/Plug & Charge will be the only way to use a Supercharger -- you'll need the software to do that.
2. Don't be surprised if your VIN will be required to buy the official adapter, because you won't get sold one unless you have the software to use it.
3. Tesla already has a record when it comes to third party adapters. While they seem to care little about destination chargers, they're quite protective when it comes to DC charging.
4. Most owners don't even know that this is coming. Unless you've been nerding out on EVs, only a small segment of owners are chomping at the bit here.
5. There are a lot of former and current Tesla owners on this forum. Come on, when has Tesla actually made or hit a date for anything. February comments aside, I'd expect it to be landing in Q1 with most owners not getting access to it until Q2 for all of the above reasons.
6. Given the above, I don't see any need to rush out and hoard adapters that may not even work.

Just a few observation points:

1. An OTA is not required to add a provider to the BOCN.

2. Moot point. No software required.

3. Tesla was protective about DC adapters because it can directly affect their vehicle. This is the inverse of that.

5. Tesla actually does really well with infrastructure rollout and usually meets their quarterly goals when it comes to charging. Tesla is most likely done and ready to rollout, itprobably Ford that is the holdout.

6. Buying an adapter that is ensured to work isn’t hoarding.

 

[The Weatherman]

I have no clue who that is but if you can provide a link that would be sweet.

He is a YouTuber with over 200,000 subscribers that has been providing EV information for years now. He is well known and respected in the industry.

Check YouTube for Out of Spec.

 

[dww]

Part of the deal for NACS is that the vehicles must support plug n charge for the Tesla experience.

The only benefit for plug n charge using a supercharger is for FordPass to upcharge. It was literally faster for me to turn on the Tesla supercharger in the app and plug the charger in that it was for me to wait at the EA charger for it to do the handshake and me to wait to press the “start charge” button on the charger. It’s already better than the best EA/FordPass experience (minus the short cable).

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