Curious why some do not use 1 pedal driving.

[Scorpio3d]

I don’t know why but for some reason, my truck likes to go fast??
I find it easier to use two pedal to avoid people that should not have a license i.e. when they decide to take a right turn from the left-hand lane across three lanes of traffic?
I am not sure when they started not requiring people to take drivers education to get a drivers license.

Sorry for the rant!

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[jamelski]

I have seen in some threads that some don't use the 1 pedal driving and I wonder why. I took a 60 mile drive yesterday and only had to use my breaks twice. At the rate I will likely never have to do a brake job. Plus a little energy recovered.

1 pedal sucks that’s why. Well at least for me.

these threads feel like Trump verse Harris or Harris verse Trump

Like others have said , 1 or 2 pedal use the friction brakes the same. most ev will never ever need a brake job enjoy your 1 pedal. I’ll enjoy my 2 pedal. But people won’t I hate your 1 pedal I hate your 2 pedal. Sound familiar

 

[evowner]

1 pedal sucks that’s why. Well at least for me.

these thread feel like Trump verse Harris or Harris verse Trump

Like other had said. 1 or 2 pedal use the friction brakes the same. most ev will never ever need a brake job enjoy your 1 pedal. I’ll enjoy my 2 pedal. But people won’t I hate your 1 pedal I hate your 2 pedal. Sound familiar

I did not understand the manner the braking mechanism of this truck. Heck you people may have converted me. (not really, my other vehicles have only one pedal, so I am used to it)

 

[Bigisland Guy]

We do a lot of mountain driving and we have much better regen percentags when we do not use one pedal when going down hill.

 

[beschneider]

I like it. I am a disabled Vet. I have problems with feeling in my right leg. I can just let off the peddle to slow down and have the option of the real brake if I need it. If I am driving her car I tend to push to hard on the peddle. I love it.

 

[FirstF150InCasco]

For 51 years I was always a "3-pedal" driver -- I've always bought manual transmission cars, with the 2022 Lariat being my first automatic. My three sons all had to learn on manuals; they complained about it at the time, but were grateful once they mastered the manual. It became a point of pride amongst their friends. To stick with manuals, I had to custom-order two Fusions because it was the only way to get a manual in recent years.

So going from 3-pedal to 2-pedal was enough change for me. I've tried the 1-pedal a few times and it's just not for me.

 

[Danface]

 

[WHPHLightning]

This is a great question that true to EV biased form, I haven’t seen the real answer.

Which is this, one pedal driving changes the physics of how your truck handles. The most noticeable is that there is a consistent drag on the vehicle. So the inertia of the passenger experience is completely changed vs. 2 pedal.

For example, with 2-pedal driving the operator decides when to apply the brake and with what amount of force, the truck goes into a free roll scenario every so often that is slowed/stopped by brake application.

Compare that to 1 pedal, which applies the force immediately and to the degree it deems necessary, thus eliminating the free roll scenario all together, which passengers are very familiar with.

So the reasons people don’t use it build off of this reality.

1.) the driving/passenger experience is completely different.
2.) the handling of the truck in snow is different and not as good because as it turns out, allowing your truck to free roll as opposed to applying brake the entire time, is better in that circumstance.
3.) backing up and parallel parking is completely different and not as intuitive.

Now it is not to say that these are insurmountable flaws, or that I don’t personally see the value of 1 pedal driving. But it is to say that there are good reasons to avoid using it, and from a bigger picture explains yet another hurdle this truck has faced in gaining widespread adoption. Which is that while this feature is interesting, it also doesn’t come without serious tradings. And those tradeoffs either don’t get recognized by owners or even worse get suppressed by owners, only to have new people entering in the market become disillusioned by the reality of the feature or upset that the full scope of the feature wasn’t explained to them.

tl;dr: 1 pedal driving is not the same as 2 pedal driving with 1 pedal, it features new physics that change how the truck handles, sometimes good, other times bad. This is another feature that divides owners vs would be owners and is a leading response to the question “why aren’t people buying more lightnings” that people would rather not be true.

 

[BlackoutXIII]

The only issue I have with 1PD is backing into a parking spot. To me, it just feels very jerky and unnatural. Maybe if I spent more time using it...?

 

[Basalt]

I have 2 other rigs I drive that are 3-pedal drive. I don't drive in traffic. I see little benefit in learning a new motor skill for driving.

 

[thunderbayterry]

I'm not a fan of 1pedal driving, maybe its because I'm 58 years old. When I take my foot off the gas, (Ha Ha - I said GAS) - I want the truck to COAST along, not start BRAKING. Thats just me.

Also, in WINTER DRIVING CONDITIONS, I find 1pedal can put you into a slide easier. Again - thats just me.

What a wonderful truck we have in that it supports BOTH preferences! Good on you, FORD!

 

[MaintGrl]

I find that trying to drive smoothly with 1 pedal just requires too much focus. I even abandoned sport mode because even that little bit of regen if not managed correctly can make people who are easily susceptible to motion sickness queasy. And I have yet to ride as a passenger in a car with anyone who can give a smooth ride with 1 pedal. So I just opt out. What I really wish is that this truck had paddle shifters that allowed you to step up and down the regen. My old Hyundai Ionic had that and it was great for "engine breaking"...

Ya, I keep trying to down shift, but. . . there is NO lower gear to shift to...

 

[Calvin H-C]

At the rate I will likely never have to do a brake job.

Friction brakes are needed to bring the vehicle to a stop once your speed drops low enough for regen to lose its effectiveness - at about 2-3 mph. That said, it will be quite a time before you will need a full brake job. Just make sure they occasionally get serviced and adjusted to help with their longevity.

From 7+ years experience with my Focus Electric, which just reached 100,000 miles last week, the rear pads are original and still have about 7 mm remaining. The front pads were changed at 133,000 km (almost 83,000 miles) when the pads had almost 4 mm left. This was done since the discs were getting pock marked, partly from lack of use. The car tells me that over its lifetime, it has gone over 20,000 km (12,500 miles) on regenerated energy.

The FFE does not have 1PD. It does have a shifter with a "low gear" that increases the aggressiveness of regen when coasting compared to the "Drive" position. I pretty much always drive in Low on the FFE like I do with 1PD in the Lightning.

While both vehicles use regen as much as possible, using 1PD in the Lightning guarantees that 100% of the regen possible will be used if you don't touch the brake pedal. Touching the brake pedal will still use regen, but pressing hard enough may begin to engage friction braking and give you a "brake score" less than 100%. I do find it is easier to still get 100% in the Lightning than with the FFE.

I preferred 1PD from the start, but as the Lightning is my wife's vehicle, I needed to turn it on when getting in and off when getting out initially. She tried it a couple of times, but didn't take to it initially. Then, about three months or so later, I got in and found it already in 1PD mode. It's pretty much remained that way since.

 

[MaintGrl]

I don’t know why but for some reason, my truck likes to go fast??
I find it easier to use two pedal to avoid people that should not have a license i.e. when they decide to take a right turn from the left-hand lane across three lanes of traffic?
I am not sure when they started not requiring people to take drivers education to get a drivers license.

Sorry for the rant!

Um, "Right turn Clyde" . . .from the left turn lane

 

[B177y]

This is a great question that true to EV biased form, I haven’t seen the real answer.

Which is this, one pedal driving changes the physics of how your truck handles. The most noticeable is that there is a consistent drag on the vehicle. So the inertia of the passenger experience is completely changed vs. 2 pedal.

For example, with 2-pedal driving the operator decides when to apply the brake and with what amount of force, the truck goes into a free roll scenario every so often that is slowed/stopped by brake application.

Compare that to 1 pedal, which applies the force immediately and to the degree it deems necessary, thus eliminating the free roll scenario all together, which passengers are very familiar with.

So the reasons people don’t use it build off of this reality.

1.) the driving/passenger experience is completely different.
2.) the handling of the truck in snow is different and not as good because as it turns out, allowing your truck to free roll as opposed to applying brake the entire time, is better in that circumstance.
3.) backing up and parallel parking is completely different and not as intuitive.

Now it is not to say that these are insurmountable flaws, or that I don’t personally see the value of 1 pedal driving. But it is to say that there are good reasons to avoid using it, and from a bigger picture explains yet another hurdle this truck has faced in gaining widespread adoption. Which is that while this feature is interesting, it also doesn’t come without serious tradings. And those tradeoffs either don’t get recognized by owners or even worse get suppressed by owners, only to have new people entering in the market become disillusioned by the reality of the feature or upset that the full scope of the feature wasn’t explained to them.

tl;dr: 1 pedal driving is not the same as 2 pedal driving with 1 pedal, it features new physics that change how the truck handles, sometimes good, other times bad. This is another feature that divides owners vs would be owners and is a leading response to the question “why aren’t people buying more lightnings” that people would rather not be true.

A friendly rebuttal:

If you feather the accelerator pedal (don't lift your foot completely off) you can modulate the amount of braking applied by the 1pd. You can still "coast" in 1pd by finding the sweet spot in the accelerator. Sounds difficult but it became second nature within about the first 5 minutes of driving my old MME with 1pd, and now on my Lightning. The "physics" of driving are still the same. If anything, it's more similar to engine braking with a stick shift or old style automatic transmissions that stayed "connected" when letting your foot off of the gas vs the newer automatic transmissions that feel like they completely disconnect and allow coasting to try and eek out extra gas mileage.

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