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Yes, if it’s in my driveway, it’s plugged in. I charge based on my solar production and time of use plan, so charge windows is 7am-1pm currently. 7am-7pm on the weekends. But I still keep it plugged in for the active cooling. I don’t think we’re quite hot enough for that yet.
Interesting issue with TOU time restriction, conditioning of the battery won't happen if the departure time is outside the charge availability window, I tested this phenomena last winter for cold conditions, using my FCSP and the trucks onboard charging window.
 

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Interesting issue with TOU time restriction, conditioning of the battery won't happen if the departure time is outside the charge availability window,
It seems to be a logic mistake that the truck will fail to be proactive to protect it's battery against premature cell degradation from sustained hot weather, regardless if connected to the grid or not.

Cell degradation after 8 weeks of 130 F. is reported to be amazing. Over a couple of years you could easily find 50-60 days of this type of exposure that could be entirely avoided with a change to the software logic.
 

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It seems to be a logic mistake that the truck will fail to be proactive to protect it's battery against premature cell degradation from sustained hot weather, regardless if connected to the grid or not.

Cell degradation after 8 weeks of 130 F. is reported to be amazing. Over a couple of years you could easily find 50-60 days of this type of exposure that could be entirely avoided with a change to the software logic.

I agree, and I really hope the summer logic is better than the winter logic
 

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This post doesn't make me miss Arizona in the slightest. Born and raised in Tempe then I got smart at 30 and moved away from Satan's Taint 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
 

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This post doesn't make me miss Arizona in the slightest. Born and raised in Tempe then I got smart at 30 and moved away from Satan's Taint 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Did just the opposite, lived in the south most of my adult life then moved here in 88.
 

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I wish there was a way to set a climate zone for the interior, the beauty of an EV is that you have power to keep the cabin from melting or freezing. I would usually happily trade range for not having my stuff in the truck get destroyed by climate. I made the mistake of leaving a violin in my car on a day that did not seem that hot and the varnish melted, and on the other side I often have stuff freeze in the winter.
 

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Ok this was interesting: actually 104F, didn’t remote start or anything, just a random trip to the grocery store. The truck thinks it’s 120F and the battery is almost on the midline. The difference is the weekends allow anytime charging. Thinking I need to open up the charge windows during the week so the truck will protect the battery.
Ford F-150 Lightning Ah summer is here in the valley of the sun IMG_1782
 

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Ok this was interesting: actually 104F, didn’t remote start or anything, just a random trip to the grocery store. The truck thinks it’s 120F and the battery is almost on the midline. The difference is the weekends allow anytime charging. Thinking I need to open up the charge windows during the week so the truck will protect the battery.
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Interesting confirmation of what I think is going on!!
 

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OK, it's 9:45, I had a 10:00 departure set, real outside temp is 93F and with the departure set, the battery temp is dead on the middle line. I could hear the cooler running lightly as soon as I stepped outside. Of note, maybe it just hadn't kicked on yet since it still had 15 min till "departure" time, but the cab was not cooled at all. Now I'm wondering if I should set multiple departure times at the hottest parts of the day to better protect the battery from the heat.
Ford F-150 Lightning Ah summer is here in the valley of the sun IMG_1784
 

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That's good news, if the truck is awake it protects the battery.

Now Ford needs to awaken the truck when needed regardless if plugged in or not.
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