Anyone replace the CCS for J1772 cable on the Charge Station Pro?

[Jaime]

I've searched for an answer to this on and off since I've had my truck (August '22). Finally found a sort of answer: 80A J1772 cable.

I can't speak to the quality of the cable or connector, but at $390 before shipping, it doesn't make much sense fiscally. Like others have said, it's probably a better idea to replace the charger with a different option if it's worth it to you.

A better, and cheaper, alternative from a known connector company: ITT CANNON J2CE8021-15S0A
There are also 20' and 25' variants. (J2CE8021-20S0A and J2CE8021-25S0A)

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[The Weatherman]

Here is the solution to your problem.

 

[chl]

Has anyone tried replacing the Ford Charge Station Pro cable with a J1772 cable?

This is my first and only EV, so far, but I have people visiting with Teslas and I cannot offer them a charge because of the CCS connector.

I've been contemplating either a new charger, or replacing the CCS cable with a J1772 cable. Basically, removing the current cable and buying a 25 ft replacement or extension cable and wiring it directly to the inside of the box.

Has anyone tried this? Thoughts?

(Wired to a 60A breaker, 48A charging. No plans for backup power through the charger.)

I had the same idea.
Should be simple as long as the right wires are connected to the right terminals in the FCSP.

 

[chl]

A lot of ideas instead of the simplest solution (short of selling it and buying a new EVSE): you can buy the J1772 head. You don't have to buy an entire cable to swap the connector.

An electrician might drop in and explain this better (or correct me) but you might encounter some mismatching issues if you swap EVSEs. Right now, your wiring was sized for 100A continuous (3 AWG) but the lugs on a 60A EVSE won't accept 3 AWG wiring (the diameter is too large), you can't terminate the wires to an outlet for 60A (has to be direct wired), and a 14-50 outlet wouldn't accept 3 AWG wiring anyway (same reason the direct wired EVSE won't accept them--they aren't expected to be connected to wiring that thick). If you look at your 100A breaker you'll probably find that the lugs are larger than a 60A breaker...unless you sized your wire and breaker for 60A, which is a different issue altogether (since the FCSP can be set up to 80A everything in the circuit should be sized for that capacity even if the installer turned the settings down).

So you might find you have to buy an 80A EVSE to replace the FCSP. Or none of this matters and the circuit is only sized for 60A in which case the FCSP should be sold because you're never going to be able to use it's full capacity.

The solution would be a 100A sub-panel with a 60A breaker for the EVSE.
Connect the # 3 wires to the sub-panel 'input' 100A breaker.
Be sure to 'lift' the neutral in the panel, that is, have it grounded ONLY at the main panel, NOT in the sub-panel to be code compliant, even thought the EVSE won't need the neutral wire connection, just hot, hot and ground.
An electrician can do this easily.

 

[chl]

2 other ideas.

1) Leave the charge station pro, and use your existing supply to the FCSP and run that to a sub panel on the front side of it. Then wire from the Subpanel to the FCSP and a 14-50r outlet or another Wall Charger. Could either downrate the FCSP or put some sort of interlock that only allowed one circuit on at a time.


2) Just charge the other EV's from the truck.

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/ford-f-150-lightning-charge-another-ev-rivian-r1t-tesla-model-3/

Another idea some have had:

Buy a J1772 extension cable and trim some plastic so it fits the CCS1 plug:

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