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Not sure why everybody is talking about Plug & Charge. It's EA and Tesla only in the US, nothing to do with FPL.
 

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You are only partially correct. Perhaps you meant to say that no one was ever charged? That would also be incorrect. There was an initial roll out for $50/year that was supposed to give us the same discount as we would have gotten with Pass+ at EA. They stopped when they couldn't get the discount to apply. See a MachE forum thread here for evidence: https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/blueoval-electrify-america-discount-working.15073/

Looks like that effort was abandoned, which is disappointing. I think it would be good value for a single membership that was able to get the discount for multiple providers. Around me, it's only EA and Tesla. No need to use BlueOval as I prefer getting the discount. Otherwise, we'll just take ICE since the price is the same and we save time.
At some point having the option to purchase a membership discount is in no way the same thing as there ever being, or even the plan of having, a charge to USE the network.
 

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@Ford Motor Company I love blue oval network, but you need to add the ability for us to utilize our EA and Tesla membership discounts with plug and charge. That would be a huge help!
Same. I haven’t used Blue Oval or plug and charge a single time over the life of my truck. First I had an EA membership and then I got my Tesla adapter and started a Tesla discount membership.

Ford is missing a huge opportunity to make things easier for owners and probably collect more user data.
 

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Tossing out this idea for Ford. My idea is for Ford to partner with a charging network and Home Depot and/or Lowe's. Home Depot and Lowe's have huge parking lots. They primarily serve folks with trucks. Lightning or future T3 owners could conveniently charge at a Home Depot or Lowe's since they are there picking things up. There's overlapping consumer demographics here. Truck owners would just charge while they are shopping.

Thanks for the update Brian (not AI).
You mean something like this?
Ford F-150 Lightning BlueOval Charge Network adds FPL EVolution IMG_4538
 

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I’m thankful for the convenience of adding charging networks to Blue Oval.

I find managing different apps and payment methods in each app inefficient.

I don’t DCFC enough to have any discount memberships, so I’m a big fan of Plug & Charge. (By the way, I just got the double meaning of Plug & “Charge”). I can be slow sometimes.
I only really use ChargePoint as the chargers in my work parking garage are CP. Impossible to use Plug and Charge as the cable will not unlock from the until you give it authentication on the unit. But they support NFC if you have the CP app so I just hold my phone up to it. Most of the time it works without even opening the app.
 

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I've used FPL a few times traveling up/down I75 in North and Central Florida, specifically the LAKE CITY units... of course, though, this was BEFORE the advent of Ford charging on the Tesla NACS Network, which I used certainly a MAJORITY of the time...

These FPL units can be fast, but they were a confusing mess for activation - likely Ford's PLUG N CHARGE will help soften that ...

a big help, in the Central Florida area, would be the addition of OUC ORLANDO Utilty's FAST CHARGING network, and LEVEL 2 network, all around the area.. while there are a few Superchargers open to CCS, they are actually pretty limited in this vast area... there's also only ONE single EA set that I remember, and while some EVgo's and a few other third-party brands are scattered around, I found ORLANDO to be not as 'friendly' and convenient to DC Fast Charging as I would have thought.
The lake city units have been broken for quite some time. Only one fast charger working. Ive reported it multiple times and FPL has yet to fix it.
 

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As a long time user of FPL's EVlotion sites since January of 23, I love that it has been added.. As for the Lake City location, great location but the equipment is getting old, FPL first gen installed in 22. The site is tired and needs a refresh which I tell my friends at FPL all the time... Unfortunately I'm in SoFla and that's a different group... On a brighter note FPL has shifted to add Fast Charging on secondary roads which makes for great weekend or day trips without having to do only highway road tripping... This tactic also allows for access to charging stations for everyone that doesn't or can't add home charging at 30cents per KW. We literally have 3 FPL DC Fast chargers sprinkled around our little area, an EA location, The Ford Dealership, a Shell Recharge and of course some Tesla stations plus a bunch of level 2s. So our little community has become a haven for day tripping from further south as well as from north of us... Back to FPL the CEO stated 3 years ago that they wanted to have chargers every 50 miles.. I believe that is now reduced to about 25...
 

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Not sure why everybody is talking about Plug & Charge. It's EA and Tesla only in the US, nothing to do with FPL.
I was simply taking advantage of the opportunity to express what would benefit me the most (and I'd like to think others, not just myself). I'm not against additional providers being included, but region specific providers have limited impact. Figuring out how to implement their original intent of giving us plan discount via BlueOval for EA and Tesla would be huge.

At some point having the option to purchase a membership discount is in no way the same thing as there ever being, or even the plan of having, a charge to USE the network.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. I've never insinuated that there was a fee just to use it. Please reread my original post in this thread. I said I would be willing to subscribe if they could figure out how to implement plan discounts. They USED to offer that, but yanked it when it didn't work. Hasn't been back since and no word if it will. I wanted to let @Ford Motor Company know that I'm still interested in it if they can get it to work. That's all.
 

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Same. I haven’t used Blue Oval or plug and charge a single time over the life of my truck. First I had an EA membership and then I got my Tesla adapter and started a Tesla discount membership.

Ford is missing a huge opportunity to make things easier for owners and probably collect more user data.
Do you only ever charge with those two networks? In just the last week alone, I've charged on Blink, ChargePoint, EVgo, EV Connect, Ford Charge, all of which are easy through BlueOval Charge Network with no memberships to worry about (and some were cheaper than EA and Tesla even with the memberships).

Totally understood that the paid memberships with EA and Tesla are big draws for a lot of folks, but just trying to understand if folks are also limiting themselves to those networks when they pay for the discounts.
 

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I'm not sure what you're getting at. I've never insinuated that there was a fee just to use it. Please reread my original post in this thread. I said I would be willing to subscribe if they could figure out how to implement plan discounts. They USED to offer that, but yanked it when it didn't work. Hasn't been back since and no word if it will. I wanted to let @Ford Motor Company know that I'm still interested in it if they can get it to work. That's all.
This is the statement that was made

" BlueOval Charge Network is available for as long as you own your vehicle with no annual fee. That's why I was saying there's no reason not to be enrolled. Plug & Charge can be toggled independently if you want to keep that off."



To which you responded
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There was a fee initially when it rolled out. However, they were not able to integrate the discounts so they put a puase on the fee. Take a look at the FordPass app.
Ford F-150 Lightning BlueOval Charge Network adds FPL EVolution 1000007330-


Notice that it says "buy"? That is my working assumption until I see otherwise."

If you were talking about an integrated EA membership IN your Blue Oval Charge Network (two different things) then that was not clear at all
 

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If you were talking about an integrated EA membership IN your Blue Oval Charge Network (two different things) then that was not clear at all
Yes, that was the intent. I see how that could have been made more clear. Sorry about the confusion.
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