Charging at 80 amps on EVSE Other Than Ford CSP?

[TaxmanHog]

I don’t understand why Ford eliminated the dual onboard chargers especially if you have the ER battery??
It seems like maybe the cost cutting moves have gone overboard?

Trying to keep more configurations under the 80K limit.

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[BennyTheBeaver]

Trying to keep more configurations under the 80K limit.

It also decoupled the FCSP from the ER models, which is a cost cutting move as Ford was giving away the FCSP (let's be real, the cost was baked into the truck's MSRP). Even though it wasn't a line item, I'd have to imagine the FCSP price was included in the ER battery add-on.

Ford removed more features than they added without reducing the price. They should've left the second on board charger.

 

[TaxmanHog]

It also decoupled the FCSP from the ER models, which is a cost cutting move as Ford was giving away the FCSP (let's be real, the cost was baked into the truck's MSRP). Even though it wasn't a line item, I'd have to imagine the FCSP price was included in the ER battery add-on.

Ford removed more features than they added without reducing the price. They should've left the second on board charger.

Only the 3 year BC option brings the MSRP over 80k, buy the 90 day trial on closing and any tire option and you're still under 80k on the Lariat-ER, obviously the Platinum didn't benefit much as regards the federal tax credit.

 

[Kenglishdc]

United Chargers, who makes all the Grizzl-E EVSEs, is claiming that Ford Lightnings can only charge at 80 amps on the Ford Charge Station Pro.



Has anyone charged at 80 amps (or more than 48 amps) on an AC/L2 EVSE other than the Ford Charge Station Pro?

I have a 2023 Lightening and installed the “included with purchase” Ford Charge Station Pro. Then my wife purchased a Tesla compatible with the Ford charger.

Yesterday we installed the Grizzl-E 80A and left it set at 80 amps.

The Tesla automatically charged at 48amps and the Lightening appears to charge just fine. It was already at 80% so I just plugged it in to test. Have not seen if it’s using 80amps.

 

[Ry2023]

They are claiming it on their X account in the comments. It is a horrible post, trying to use the '24 as an example, without knowing none have it unless spec'd out in a fleet purchase.

Just a questionable post from a clearly uninformed person mad cause it makes their evse look bad.

United Chargers, who makes all the Grizzl-E EVSEs, is claiming that Ford Lightnings can only charge at 80 amps on the Ford Charge Station Pro.



Has anyone charged at 80 amps (or more than 48 amps) on an AC/L2 EVSE other than the Ford Charge Station Pro?

The charge at a blink charger that gives me 15 kw ( which are 70amp chargers I believe) and have seen non-Ford 80 amp chargers work on my truck…so I don’t think this is correct

 

[Adventureboy]

I've charged at 16kw+ at a hotel charger back in December. Awesome. I don't remember the brand but it was NOT Ford or Tesla and it had been there for a while (ie, not a newly installed EVSE).

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

It's pretty rediculous to put a company on blast off of heresay from a customer (who is probably ill informed of the charge rates). While the poster was trying to get people fired up towards Ford, all they did was get everyone fired up at Grizzl-e/United. The irresponsible post will cost that company sales from 22/23 Lightning customers that think their charger is incompatible. It will also cost them from those of us that won't give Grizzl-e/United our business in the future because of newfounded lack of trust.

Yep.

I've taken their EVSEs off my list of recommended "chargers" to friends who are buying EVs. They've lost a lot of respect with this ignorant post.

 

[CAVUBob]

United Chargers, who makes all the Grizzl-E EVSEs, is claiming that Ford Lightnings can only charge at 80 amps on the Ford Charge Station Pro.



Has anyone charged at 80 amps (or more than 48 amps) on an AC/L2 EVSE other than the Ford Charge Station Pro?

capt_ramius,

I found out the hard way that the 24s (including our Platinum) only have a single on-board charger which limits ANY EVSE charge to 48A. However, Grizzl-E gave me the same (wrong) info that a Ford Charge Station Pro would work (up to 80A) because Ford limited other, non-Ford, EVSEs to 48A.

There are are couple of discussions already on this forum about this issue—one of them started by me.

Bottom line—if you have a 2024 Lightning, you’re limited to 48A, unless you have a “fleet” model with dual on-board chargers.

CAVUBob

 

[MountainAlive]

It also decoupled the FCSP from the ER models, which is a cost cutting move as Ford was giving away the FCSP (let's be real, the cost was baked into the truck's MSRP). Even though it wasn't a line item, I'd have to imagine the FCSP price was included in the ER battery add-on.

Ford removed more features than they added without reducing the price. They should've left the second on board charger.

I wish we had a say in which features to drop and which to keep. Pipe dream I know. But buyers might gladly do without say, an automatic tailgate if it meant keeping dual onboard charging for future buyers. Idk.

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