Charging Cost at Ford Dealership is ridiculous

[cc_lightning]

I was visit my sister in law this week and went to a Ford dealership to charge the truck. It was label as $0.50 kWh/$0.50 per min. I thought it was $0.50 while charging and $0.50 per min while idle. To my surprised, it was both. The charger was around 60 kWh, so effectively, I was getting charge $1.00 per kWh. That’s crazy.

Now, imagine a potential EV buyer visits a dealership and ask about the charging cost. Ford dealerships are not helping EV sales. They are probably hurting it. I think Ford really should look at their dealerships and make sure they follow certain standards, such as standard or maximum charging prices.

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[RickLightning]

One dealership is not all dealerships.

 

[cc_lightning]

Fair point. I think I was trying to emphasize that the charge pricing is/will have a negative effect on Ford EV sales.

 

[jetfixr1]

Name and location? Curios to see whats on ther plugshare.

 

[cc_lightning]

All American Ford of Hackensack. In Hackensack, NJ.

 

[BedFullOfElectronZ]

I recently charged for free at McGrath Ford in Hiawatha, Iowa. They had two new DC charging units with two dispensers each (along with several AC charging stations) and one charger didn't work for me. While I was charging on the other unit, an employee came over and said, "I noticed you were having trouble with one of our chargers." I said yes, I couldn't get a successful session negotiation with that one, and he said he would report it. Best charging service I've ever experienced -- if only they were all well-attended (very few are). And no, I didn't buy my Lightning there.

 

[hturnerfamily]

Ford dealers, like Chevy dealers, and others can charge whatever they wish... but, I'll bet you'll find that your concern is not widespread. I've visited a Chevy dealer @ $6 per hour, several Nissan or Kia dealers with FREE fast chargers, etc.
On the other side, I've also visited a Mercedes dealer, with a Chargepoint unit, which was $1 per KWH. Crazy.
I also don't think anyone buying an EV from Ford is concerned about what 'their' dealer is charging, if they even have one... you'll likely never use a local unit, regardless.

Prices are different all across the country. A DOTHAN AL utility has two Chargepoints downtown and only charges 7cents per kwh. This is the same town where the Mercedes dealer is located : /

 

[RickLightning]

Prices for level 2 charging at a dealership is pretty irrelevant, it is their new DCFC (new to Ford) that are now being installed that matters for travelers.

 

[Ventorum94]

I was visit my sister in law this week and went to a Ford dealership to charge the truck. It was label as $0.50 kWh/$0.50 per min. I thought it was $0.50 while charging and $0.50 per min while idle. To my surprised, it was both. The charger was around 60 kWh, so effectively, I was getting charge $1.00 per kWh. That’s crazy.

Now, imagine a potential EV buyer visits a dealership and ask about the charging cost. Ford dealerships are not helping EV sales. They are probably hurting it. I think Ford really should look at their dealerships and make sure they follow certain standards, such as standard or maximum charging prices.

Fast DC charging, whether at Ford dealers or elsewhere, should be sufficiently more expensive than home charging or other day-to-day Level 2 charging, to make it unattractive as a means of primary day-to-day charging. Fast DC at $1/kWh accomplishes two things: shorter charging sessions, and last-resort usage. Both of these help insure that FDC charging is available to more people, anytime they need it: when too far from home charger, when long-distance road tripping, just needing charge in an hurry, etc., all of which justify a premium price for Fast DC. So what if it costs more than gasoline? It’s worth it for those infrequent times when it’s absolutely necessary, and invaluable.

 

[Ventorum94]

Prices for level 2 charging at a dealership is pretty irrelevant, it is their new DCFC (new to Ford) that are now being installed that matters for travelers.

The last thing a Ford dealer needs is to have its chargers be an economical alternative to home charging. Ford Dealer fast-DC needs to be charging of last-resort; for emergency use, or use by long-distance travelers to support trips in areas underserved by EA, Tesla, etc.

 

[Smokewagun]

I know a woman who charges at an Electrify America in Joliet probably about every other day for all I know. She sits in her car and charges to 100% EVERY TIME I see her there. Chargers like that should recognize the VIN, and overcharge the user when they notice frequent use like that to 100%. I’ve seen lines waiting, snd she could give a rats patoot. Of course, that’s not logical, but you get the point.
Maybe forced shutdown at 80% would be better. Then a restart for 80% to 100% at a substantially higher rate that makes it unattractive. I guess that’s only a solution when the infrastructure supports more local charging.

 

[petewatts]

It’s not just Ford, I went to a GMC dealership last month to charge and they were really nice the first time I charged. I went back a couple days later and the charger was blocked. I talked to the a manager and he apologized and said he would talk to his staff about parking vehicles in front of the charging station. We’ll see the next time I go there.

 

[GDN]

It’s not just Ford, I went to a GMC dealership last month to charge and they were really nice the first time I charged. I went back a couple days later and the charger was blocked. I talked to the a manager and he apologized and said he would talk to his staff about parking vehicles in front of the charging station. We’ll see the next time I go there.

It's hard to know or tell exactly where that is at the dealership, is that the main entrance? Side? near service? The key is that it is put right at some sort of entrance. That may be the cheapest place to put it to get access to power, but reality is long term it will always be a problem. Chargers need to be placed away from an entrance, away from the most desirable parking. They need to be a bit out of the way, they need to be a bit inconvenient to a degree. I wish more of them would figure this out.

 

[petewatts]

It’s not just Ford, I went to a Chevy dealership last month to charge and they were really nice the first time I charged. I went back a couple days later and the charger was blocked. I talked to the a manager and he apologized and said he would talk to his staff about parking vehicles in front of the charging station. We’ll see the next time I go there.

Update: That’s the side entrance right by the door they drive the new cars onto the showroom floor.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Update: That’s the side entrance right by the door they drive the new cars onto the showroom floor.

Possibly, the logic of this placement, is new owner orientation, more for sales/delivery procedures than routine energy sales.

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