DCFC Hacking

[rockhead]

Think about a card skimmer dude... Not hard to put a shim on there without you noticing

This is not a skimmer operation you would have to build an adapter that goes 'in the middle' of the high voltage high current connection

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[richl025]

this very thing, and some similar by-products, came to mind the other day during the 'Crowdstrike/Microsoft' unfortunate 'update issue'...

A) we plug our vehicles into a machine, run by software, which knows our vehicle, and our billing, etc., and we 'wonder' if things can go wrong... uh oh.

B) we plug our vehicles into a charger machine, which requires lots of 'power' to power our vehicles, all the while never contemplating what will happen when that unit, or the area, or the whole REGION loses power, and for hours, or worse, DAYS... just as we arrive with almost no power to get anywhere else.
(This actually happened several months ago coming down to Florida... a storm had just knocked out power over the LakeCity area of I75 in North Florida, right where I was planning to 'stop' to charge, along the way. I had to do some creative searching and re-planning to make it work, stopping much shorter than planned, and hoping to get 'thru' the power outage area with enough to make to the next charger... that certainly causes some Charge Anxiety.)

C) we connect SO MUCH of our LIVES to software, apps, computers, and social media... you get the idea.

As far as "B" - how old are you? I remember (as a young child) during the summer of 1972 (maybe '73?) waiting in a line of cars stat stretched around the block, waiting to get a 5-gallon "ration" of fuel, only to discover the station ran empty before it was our turn. The papers reported fistfights would break out as people tried to jump the line (thankfully this was long before everyone was armed!)

ANY type of energy / fuel can be limited / interdicted / embargo'd.

Yes, we are more fossil-fuel self-sufficient now then we were back then, but only 5-6 years ago the price of gas went through the roof because a few refineries got knocked off-line in the Houston area. Just a few more and we would be back to the 70s....

 

[rockhead]

The article is about PLC Power Line Communications, unless you are taking the truck apart to get to the low voltage side or the charge station guts after the data has been removed from the power line, either way you are then not a mitm

 

[Formerly]

This is not a skimmer operation you would have to build an adapter that goes 'in the middle' of the high voltage high current connection

Yes, I understand. I was merely drawing a comparison of the use of a skimmer being a "mitm".

 

[rockhead]

good luck with your installation

 

[MM in SouthTX]

I guess if no one had a generator this might be true.

Also, if the grid is down you can truck in gas. You can’t truck in electricity.

 

[MM in SouthTX]

You’re missing the point. One generator at a gas station can fuel hundreds of vehicles. The fuel trucked in can keep this up for weeks.

If the grid is down and we all have electric vehicles, we are screwed in a few days.

 

[MM in SouthTX]

I have been through multiple hurricanes with the grid down. We are able to get gas because it is trucked in and the gas station has a rented generator running it. That is reality. Not sure what you are basing your experience on.

The common scenario is that the electrical crews get some power back in a few days. Then there are gas stations with grid power, and people can get gas. In that situation we are far better off being able to drive a few miles and fill up in 5 minutes. Not so simple if you are all electric. Imagine the line of EV’s waiting to plug into the only working station.

 

[TaxmanHog]

My nearby fuel station that I used to visit weekly to refuel my Powerstroke, but now only monthly for my wife's ICE car. Ground up construction about 5 years ago included a permanent emergency power plant to power full operation of the station.

 

[Grumpy2]

After hurricane Charlie about 20 years ago that Florida gas stations must have generators.

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