Ford’s F-150 Lightning is falling behind Tesla’s Cybertruck in deepening EV crisis

[Lightningwaiter]

I suspected this already, but now we know why Ford keeps cutting things out of the truck.

https://fortune.com/2025/02/05/ford...-behind-tesla-cybertruck-deepening-ev-crisis/

I would just like ford to keep updating the lightning like tesla does with their vehicles.

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[iam-s-Hon]

I would just like ford to keep updating the lightning like tesla does with their vehicles.

You’ll probably be waiting awhile. A general opinion may be that the lightning was designed to do truck stuff but with a battery. The CT is tech on wheels designed to look different and maybe do *some truck-like things.

apples and pears, maybe.

 

[XENOILPHOBE]

It would be cool if Ford did a deal with Lucid, their new motors can do 5 miles per kWh and are about the size of a gallon paint can, with over 20,000 RPM capability and 146 eMPG in the Lucid Air sedan and 500 kW of power in this form factor that weights less than 32 Kg, which is the highest power to weight ratio of any EV motor.

 

[Pottsie]

All I keep thinking every time I read an article or hear people scared of progress is ….”you do you.”
I have had zero complaints and glad Ford had the fortitude to dare to try.

Is it perfect…probably not. But progress always has to start somewhere. Amazed by how humans seem to forget how progress begins. Again…you do you, Fortune.

 

[Kev12345]

You’ll probably be waiting awhile. A general opinion may be that the lightning was designed to do truck stuff but with a battery. The CT is tech on wheels designed to look different and maybe do *some truck-like things.

apples and pears, maybe.

in fairness, considering most use cases, the two trucks can do the same things. id say the lightning has an advantage for contractors with the standard bed shape and more useful frunk but that's about it.

in fact, I think ford should concentrate on commercial fleets for their pure EV's. makes the most sense considering the range limitations. I bet most trades guys would love to trade in their fleet f150 xl's for a lightning pro.

let the public buy the plug-in hybrids.

 

[StevenC56]

I've been an automotive enthusiast since I was a young teen. Hot rodded cars and ended up working as a Service Tech for over 22 years at a GM Dealership before moving into a Service Manager position at a multi line Motorcycle Dealership for the last 18 years of my working career. Always keeping up with and enjoying advances in Technology. Purchased our 2024 Lightning Lariat September 30th last year. Decided it was time to try something besides an ICE vehicle. My wife and I are both very impressed with the EV Technology and love the truck. We're thinking a Mach E may be the replacement for her 2017 Explorer Platinum in the next year or 2. Not really any early adopter, but we're convinced this is definitely the future. Resistance is futile. I sure wish people would stop the "you can take my fossil fuel burning vehicle when you pry it from my cold dead hands" BS and just give it a chance.

 

[Scorpio3d]

I read this article on yahoo finance yesterday and the thing I find interesting is the guy is talking about driving uphill in winter-does he not ever go back down the mountain?
I did not post the article because I felt like this is an incomplete story, not to mention the headline being about Tesla versus Ford and that there was virtually nothing about that written in the article!!!!
I’m glad someone posted it, but it would be like me saying this one time I drove up a hill…

What passes for Journalism these days is somewhat ridiculous. IMHO

 

[iam-s-Hon]

in fairness, considering most use cases, the two trucks can do the same things. id say the lightning has an advantage for contractors with the standard bed shape and more useful frunk but that's about it.

in fact, I think ford should concentrate on commercial fleets for their pure EV's. makes the most sense considering the range limitations. I bet most trades guys would love to trade in their fleet f150 xl's for a lightning pro.

let the public buy the plug-in hybrids.

The bed shape and many more rack options is a big differentiator for truck stuff imo for contractors and non-contractors alike.

even an old el Camino could do some truck-lite stuff.

and I didn't want a plug-in by choice.

 

[Ventorum94]

….If he would have purchased the extended range instead of the standard range, he would be perfectly fine with his Lightning…

I think the ER battery pack is overrated as a solution for those with range insecurity:
1) it’s only about 30% more kWh than the SR. This is not insignificant, but it’s not like it’s going to provide vastly more range. (it’s also downright puny compared to the 210kWh GM packs in those 9000lb trucks- if that’s one’s idea of practicality)
2) if you have an SR and run it between 10%-90% SOC as a general rule, you have the same kWh for range as the guy with an ER who operates it from 20%-80%.
3) Efficiency (mi/kWh) is more important for range than whether SR/ER, and is largely under the control of an intelligent and disciplined driver. Once one has learned how to drive a BEV for efficiency when required, battery pack size is less important.

 

[RickKeen]

F150 Lightning outsold the Cybertruck in Q4 as CT sales decreased and Lightning Sales continued to increase.

Ford still has the lead in overall total EV Truck sales and now pulling away again from CT.

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