Ford Charge Station Pro vs. Tesla Universal Wall Connector

[owl123]

I bought a 2023 Platinum in October of 2024. Wasn't 100% sure if the FCSP would come with the truck during the Power Promise promotion, but since it is standard equipment on the 2023, I did still get the FCSP shipped to me.

I had already purchased a Tesla UWC after watching the State of Charge review and particularly how the cable held up in the cold temperature test (my Lightning will always be parked outside in Maine). I also have a Tesla that we park in the garage and although we bought a Tesla Wall Connector at the time, I never had it installed because we've done fine just charging off of the 120V mobile connector.

So I have both chargers right now... Any thoughts on which one I should go with?

The way I see it, the advantages of each are:

Tesla UWC:

• Easier to charge any vehicle with both the NACS and J1772 connectors
• I could have the electrician install both my UWC and WC on a shared circuit and get L2 charging inside and outside of my garage (even though I don't need the L2 inside right now)
• Possibly some future-proofing around V2H as we plan to have solar and a Powerwall (but V2H wouldn't work with either of our vehicles for now)
• Like the looks of it better on the outside of our garage
• I don't have TOU pricing right now, but, if it comes, I presume Tesla will be more likely to be compatible with my electric company

Ford CSP:

• 80 amp charging (vs. 48 amp on the TUWC)

I'm not including Ford CSP's role in the Ford Home Integration System as an advantage because I don't plan to use it and will instead will be going the Generac 6852 route. However, I suppose there is an outside chance that Ford could do a complete overhaul of their HIS and I would at least be open to it if it worked a lot better than the current system.

I would like the 80 amp charging, but I'm feeling like Tesla UWC is probably the better route to go here. Just curious what other folks think.

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[mrau]

Not sure you can charge the Tesla with the Ford charger.

 

[Scorpio3d]

Not sure you can charge the Tesla with the Ford charger.

I think you can, but I think you have to Jerry rig a CCS1 or J1772 to NACS adapter so personally, I would not recommend going that route!

 

[Athrun88]

If I had to choose one or the other, I'd go with the TUWC because it's compatible with both J1772 and NACS despite the lower amps. If you're charging overnight, a 48A feed is more than enough. I'd sell the FCSP to offset any installation costs of the TUWC because it's really only good with cars that have a CCS port which will most likely get phased out over the next 3-5 years.

If you have plans on expanding your garage though, nothing stopping you from installing both. Use the FCSP with your Lightning and TUWC with everything else.

 

[Scorpio3d]

I bought a 2023 Platinum in October of 2024. Wasn't 100% sure if the FCSP would come with the truck during the Power Promise promotion, but since it is standard equipment on the 2023, I did still get the FCSP shipped to me.

I had already purchased a Tesla UWC after watching the State of Charge review and particularly how the cable held up in the cold temperature test (my Lightning will always be parked outside in Maine). I also have a Tesla that we park in the garage and although we bought a Tesla Wall Connector at the time, I never had it installed because we've done fine just charging off of the 120V mobile connector.

So I have both chargers right now... Any thoughts on which one I should go with?

The way I see it, the advantages of each are:

Tesla UWC:

• Easier to charge any vehicle with both the NACS and J1772 connectors
• I could have the electrician install both my UWC and WC on a shared circuit and get L2 charging inside and outside of my garage (even though I don't need the L2 inside right now)
• Possibly some future-proofing around V2H as we plan to have solar and a Powerwall (but V2H wouldn't work with either of our vehicles for now)
• Like the looks of it better on the outside of our garage
• I don't have TOU pricing right now, but, if it comes, I presume Tesla will be more likely to be compatible with my electric company

Ford CSP:

• 80 amp charging (vs. 48 amp on the TUWC)

I'm not including Ford CSP's role in the Ford Home Integration System as an advantage because I don't plan to use it and will instead will be going the Generac 6852 route. However, I suppose there is an outside chance that Ford could do a complete overhaul of their HIS and I would at least be open to it if it worked a lot better than the current system.

I would like the 80 amp charging, but I'm feeling like Tesla UWC is probably the better route to go here. Just curious what other folks think.

That is a tough one!
I installed my FCSP so I could have the 80 amp charging after receiving it in April. I installed solar with a powerwall 3 in July. I would hope that someday I would be able to use the lightning as an additional battery but I am not going to purchase the HIS unless they make some serious improvements or somehow integrate it to be used with the power wall which is doubtful. I plan on keeping my truck for many years, so I will enjoy the faster charging until I get a new vehicle or buy some miracle. It is able to integrate in the future. I would think the Tesla universal charger would work just fine and give you the option to charge either vehicle. So if I was in your shoes, I might just install that. Not sure if you can run the cable under your garage door to charge the Tesla or not. My two cents good luck with your decision.

 

[Bigisland Guy]

I have both and my FCSP is dead and going through the ford expedited process now. Our Tesla charger has never had hardware or software issues and always reconnects after power downs. Unfortunately that's not the case for the FCSP. In addition I changed my 23 F150L (BB) for a 24 F150L and the 24's have only 1 inverter on board so it maxs out at 48amps anyway compared to the older 22-23's. Just food for thought from a guy that's had one of the earliest F150L's (<ser #2300). Yes, I still Love the truck and its my 5th F150 in the past 45 years but I'm looking forward to them getting things stable.

 

[Heliian]

My fcsp has been operating outside, in Canada for nearly 2 years with no problems, 2 full winters, going on my 3rd. The cable and connector are robust.
I refuse to buy any Tesla product.
If I needed an new evse them I'd buy grizzle or amproad.

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

I recall reading rumors that there was a previous version of the Tesla Wall Connector that could output 80A. Is that remotely true, or did the shrooms just kick in?

 

[RickLightning]

I recall reading rumors that there was a previous version of the Tesla Wall Connector that could output 80A. Is that remotely true, or did the shrooms just kick in?

Correct, Gen 2.

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

Correct, Gen 2.

Will forever ragret not selling my CSP and instead installing the Tesla unit. Smaller, sleeker, more universal, better in every way.

 

[Heliian]

Will forever ragret not selling my CSP

No regerts here, since the fcsp was included in mine and in Canada we actually got the EVSEs before the truck, I was fully operational on day one. I don't think there was much of a market for them anyways so selling it would just be a waste of time.

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

No regerts here, since the fcsp was included in mine and in Canada we actually got the EVSEs before the truck, I was fully operational on day one. I don't think there was much of a market for them anyways so selling it would just be a waste of time.

Looks like they are selling between $400 to $900 when filtering for 'sold' units on eBay.

 

[chl]

I think you can, but I think you have to Jerry rig a CCS1 or J1772 to NACS adapter so personally, I would not recommend going that route!

Yes, 1) make a CCS1 to J1772 adapter using a J1772 extension cabale and trim a little plastic from the end to plug into the CCS1,

then
2) use an existing J1772 to Tesla adapter.

Then you have the 80A capability for the Lightning - if you have an ER battery, a good thing to have - and you can charge the Tesla at 48A L2 with the adapter set up.

 

[Heliian]

Looks like they are selling between $400 to $900 when filtering for 'sold' units on eBay.

Weird, I guess people like them.

When mine craps out I'm getting a grizzl-e. Canada eh !

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