Ford Pass/FCSP question

[WildBlue]

WHILE charging, click on the blue banner at the bottom, and you will see the charging rate (truncated, decimal place is cut off), and the total energy received, and time charging. You can divide energy by time and get the exact rate. Once charging has ended, the display of the rate is gone. Once you unplug, the total energy number is gone. The charging logs show percentage of charge only.

I will check this again next time I charge, thank you!

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[WildBlue]

WHILE charging, click on the blue banner at the bottom, and you will see the charging rate (truncated, decimal place is cut off), and the total energy received, and time charging. You can divide energy by time and get the exact rate. Once charging has ended, the display of the rate is gone. Once you unplug, the total energy number is gone. The charging logs show percentage of charge only.

So I wanted to follow-up on this. As I write this, the truck is charging, but I see no indication in the FordPass app that it is charging nor do I see a blue banner at the bottom of any screen. This is what my home screen looks like in FordPass (remember, the truck is plugged in and charging via FCSP):

If I go to "Vehicle", this is all I see (I scrolled it to hide my address):

If I go to "Charge Logs", it's completely empty. I will also note that despite my best efforts, I cannot tell my truck what my home address is. It assumes the long/lat of its position on my driving is associated with the home address across the street, not mine. I park it in the same spot in the driveway each time I return. It seems like despite being plugged in and charging, the add refuses to acknowledge the truck is charging. Over time, the SoC value does increase so I can see an update as to the SoC, but no details as to charging rate, ETA, etc. What a crappy app. Any thoughts or ideas what could be wrong?

 

[TaxmanHog]

Do you have all the data sharing approvals ON in the sync screen in your truck??

Check your data sharing approvals on the trucks Sync screen.

 

[RickLightning]

Check your data sharing approvals on the trucks Sync screen.

Yup. Truck is not communicating.

 

[WildBlue]

I wonder if the truck doesn't think I am "home" (because it has the wrong address) and if that's affecting things in any way?

 

[sfringer]

I wonder if the truck doesn't think I am "home" (because it has the wrong address) and if that's affecting things in any way?

Nope, that shouldn't be the issue. Mine does the same; FordPass set my "home" to the address across the street. But I get all of the charging details in FordPass as expected.
EDIT: I should have added that FordPass shows my truck's location as my actual home address and charging still works as expected.

 

[TaxmanHog]

I wonder if the truck doesn't think I am "home" (because it has the wrong address) and if that's affecting things in any way?

When I set up my location based charging profile, it was in the tight confines of my garage with very little room for variation, as I built that profile, I left the automatic GPS coordinates it picked up as my precise location, configured the maximum SOC and weekday / weekend time frames, then save the configuration.

Once built, you can then edit the name as Home, Garage, work, etc..... without overruling the GPS coordinate, ignore what it associates as a street address, mine associates my location as my neighbors house 150 feet away, just leave it as is other than a friendly name change.

But you still need to approve data sharing otherwise you won't get the details posted to Fordpass.

 

[RickLightning]

I wonder if the truck doesn't think I am "home" (because it has the wrong address) and if that's affecting things in any way?

Your issue is 100% due to you turning things off to protect your privacy. Turn them all back on, verify everything works.

Regardless of being "home" or not, you would see the charging data.

THEN, if you for some reason see a need to do it, turn off ONE thing. Now, go verify if all the things you think should be working still are.

 

[WildBlue]

I wanted to do a final follow-up to this thread. After some experimentation, I discovered that when the setting "Share Vehicle Analytics" is enabled, it restored the Ford Pass charging functionality. I can now see the blue bar indicating charging status and the instantaneous power being delivered. Additionally, the app notifications when the truck is fully charged started working. Thank you to everyone that pitched in to help with the solution.

 

[RickLightning]

I wanted to do a final follow-up to this thread. After some experimentation, I discovered that when the setting "Share Vehicle Analytics" is enabled, it restored the Ford Pass charging functionality. I can now see the blue bar indicating charging status and the instantaneous power being delivered. Additionally, the app notifications when the truck is fully charged started working. Thank you to everyone that pitched in to help with the solution.

So, in short, you can't have your cake (data privacy) and eat it (use the features you want to use) too. Which is what I said earlier. Modern vehicles are CONNECTED. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't buy them, because many features will stop working.

 

[WildBlue]

So, in short, you can't have your cake (data privacy) and eat it (use the features you want to use) too. Which is what I said earlier. Modern vehicles are CONNECTED. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't buy them, because many features will stop working.

Or, you, know car companies could not sell the data they collect and only use it to provide services to their customers. It's not binary.

 

[RickLightning]

Or, you, know car companies could not sell the data they collect and only use it to provide services to their customers. It's not binary.

I also have a bridge for sale. Really cheap...

Car companies have been selling data for a very long time, and that's not going to end. But the #1 reason for connectivity is to sell features they can disable if you don't pay up.

 

[WildBlue]

I thought I was done with this thread, but another question has come up. I went ahead and set my FCSP to 80a (it was 64a). I measured the current at 73a-74a, which is inline with what others have experienced. Then, I set the current limit in FordPass to 70a and then recharged the truck (a totally different day and charging session). The current still reads 73a-74a, not the expected 64-ish amp (about 90% of 70a). Does anyone know if the software amperage limit actually limits the FCSP current? Do I need to restart the FCSP after making the amperage change, perhaps? Any other thoughts?

 

[djstough]

... Modern vehicles are CONNECTED. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't buy them, because many features will stop working.

Having bought two cars in the past 4 months, and updated a mortgage, I get an obscene amount of spam (physical) mail for warranties, loan protections, etc. So it's just not the connected data. As said above, they've been selling my data for years

 

[Zprime29]

I thought I was done with this thread, but another question has come up. I went ahead and set my FCSP to 80a (it was 64a). I measured the current at 73a-74a, which is inline with what others have experienced. Then, I set the current limit in FordPass to 70a and then recharged the truck (a totally different day and charging session). The current still reads 73a-74a, not the expected 64-ish amp (about 90% of 70a). Does anyone know if the software amperage limit actually limits the FCSP current? Do I need to restart the FCSP after making the amperage change, perhaps? Any other thoughts?

FordPass has known issues with actually responding to command to limit charge. I don't remember if there was a fix for it. Sometimes it works for me, other times it doesn't. I'm not able to measure the current directly and relying on the app to indicate if the charging rate has changed. For those that really need to limit, using the hardware switch is the best option.

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