Lightning Software Updates using FDRS

[rugedraw]

People in other countries where Ford is not supported use FDRS by going through a VPN to trick FDRS into thinking they are in the US. This works for x amount of time before their account gets suspended. So they have some measures in place to detect this.

It is also easy enough to code FDRS into raising a red flag on their side if a VIN from another country is ran through FDRS using a US based account. Or, as @B177y mentioned, an above-average amount of VINs are ran through a single FDRS account.

What I don't understand is: Wtf do they care? They can see everything that is done. FDRS records every single key-stroke. The truth is, we can't use FDRS for anything that would constitute a nefarious activity or to experiment with software on our vehicles. That's what FORScan is for, which IMO, is infinitely superior to FDRS in function. FDRS is easy in the sense that it does everything for you, but let's be honest: It is slow, unstable and very demanding of a computer's resources.

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[mr.Magoo]

What I don't understand is: Wtf do they care?

Selling Licenses ?
I mean, technically we could create a forum account and do a group buy and then we all share the same login.

So this might be their way of keeping tabs on how/where the software is used.

 

[rugedraw]

Selling Licenses ?
I mean, technically we could create a forum account and do a group buy and then we all share the same login.

So this might be their way of keeping tabs on how/where the software is used.

They would catch that almost instantly, imo. Once you start transferring an FDRS license from one computer to another and it connects to the mothership with different IP address, it's over.

I agree that license sales are the only thing that makes sense here. However, in the case of what happened (is happening) to Mike, they specifically said their problem was with VINs from outside markets being run through his FDRS account. Not to mention, FDRS users ask to see what pending updates they may have so they can buy a license to do them.

It would be much easier for Mike, myself and anyone else who does this if customers can call the Ford 800 number and ask them to check what pending updates are there from them. The OTA customer service reps have PTS access, so they can easily provide this info to owners.

Whatever......I digress. Worry about the things you can control.

 

[RyZac]

Does FDRS tell if the 24B56 parking sensors update was performed? I sent my truck to the dealer last Fall for this. They had the truck from Friday-Monday. When the tech could not get it completed overnight after charging they needed to keep it until Monday. When I was called to say all done Mondayafternoon, the paperwork just says " recall incomplete and sent back to shop".

just got the window OTA and patiently waiting for BC 1.4

 

[Maineiac12]

I thought I should let folks know that two days ago my Ford account that I use to login to FDRS was suspended.

Today I got an explanation of why:

"Running VINS outside of your country will cause your account to be suspended. Going forward, you should not do this. We have re-enabled your account with a password reset. If we see the same activity, it will be suspended again."

So I'm still okay with doing VIN lookups, but I must now restrict myself to only looking up VINs that are US based. So if you're based in Canada I'd ask that you find somebody there who can provide that ability going forward.

This is the second time my account has been suspended...but it's the first time I was provided an explanation as to why (the first time it was my Ford owner/Fordpass account that I was using with FDRS as well, and it just got turned back on after a week). So I set up a separate account to use with FDRS...and this time I got an explanation and a warning.

Just so you know....

So you got suspended for using your FordPass login in FDRS? That’s what I’ve been doing. Should I create a separate account to be safe?

 

[mr.Magoo]

They would catch that almost instantly, imo. Once you start transferring an FDRS license from one computer to another and it connects to the mothership with different IP address, it's over.

Well, if people are getting creative with VPNs to circumvent country restrictions Ford might just have implemented a check on vehicle location, but that seems like a lot of work and wouldn't necessarily work when people switch off location sharing. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Oh, and just incase someone misinterprets my previous statement about a group buy, I'm not suggesting we, or anyone, should in any way shape or firm do it.

 

[rugedraw]

So you got suspended for using your FordPass login in FDRS? That’s what I’ve been doing. Should I create a separate account to be safe?

He did that too. Still got suspended.

 

[PJnc284]

If Ford would do their job and wasn't slow as molasses with updates, the average person wouldn't even need fdrs or pts. They should be happy though that people are willing to check or update on their own so the dealers aren't hammered by people calling them.

 

[rugedraw]

Does FDRS tell if the 24B56 parking sensors update was performed? I sent my truck to the dealer last Fall for this. They had the truck from Friday-Monday. When the tech could not get it completed overnight after charging they needed to keep it until Monday. When I was called to say all done Mondayafternoon, the paperwork just says " recall incomplete and sent back to shop".

just got the window OTA and patiently waiting for BC 1.4

Yes, we'd be able to tell if it was done with PTS/FDRS. if they did the CSP you mentioned, you don't need to wait for the OTA. You can enable BC 1.4 yourself with FORScan.

 

[chl]

I got a window bounce update the other night - my pet peeve about OTA updates - they seem to cause a skipping of the next scheduled charge.


1) after getting the notice an update was available, I parked my truck, plugged it into the FCSP, and then scheduled the update to install immediately - it said it would take 40 minutes and it was around 10pm - it gave me a 2 minutes countdown and then started updating after I turned off the truck;
2) I wanted to charge my truck that night beginning at 1 am well after the update so I thought there would be no conflict - 1am is the preferred time I have set in the truck menu previously when the cost is lower, alas...
3) the next morning I discovered the truck had not charged overnight.

I do not understand why an update that occurs 2-1/2 hours BEFORE the scheduled charge start has to FTU...

Guess I have to babysit the charging to be sure it starts as scheduled...

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