Mileage understanding

[SSNutz]

Yes I realized that I did that now you mentioned it. Thank you. I noticed that yesterday driving my son to the airport I got 2.8 kWh preconditioning the battery and that was with the air conditioner on.

My precondition does not involve AC right now

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[FloridaMan655321]

Print, Cut, Paste over your Guess-O-Meter. Problem solved.

Need a big town / small city driving, because I get around 3 when driving to/from work. A lot of 35mph driving with a little bit of 45-55.

 

[FloridaMan655321]

This subject has been a huge frustration for EV and hybrid Mfr’s for decades. The 2004 Toyota Prius was originally rated as a 60mpg car. That was true at 60mph or less and driven delicately.
But the average consumer didn’t drive like that, and complained like hell that Toyota was misleading. They later changed it to like 48mpg.
Sad, because I could consistently get 60mpg.

(If exploited with extreme driving techniques, hypermiling with outrageous speed fluctuations , it could get 100mpg. Yes 100mpg !)

It’s been the same struggle with consumers, conditioned by gas cars, ever since.
Bottom line, EV drivetrains are extremely efficient, but extremely affected by the “varaiables”…., which are many.

Kind of reminds me of an old S10 I had, with the 4.3l v6, manual, single cab, I was always getting 20+ mpg (often 25 or more) even with cold conditions. The State I lived in at the time had kind of low speed limits, so that helped, but I was always surprised what good mph it got vs what the EPA rated. Also, I wasn't hypermiling at all, I was in my early 20s, so you can guess how efficient I was driving.

 

[chl]

Getting (recently) 2.4mi/kWh cool weather (50F) 25mph gradual accelerations and stops.

Half what my 2012 Nissan Leaf gets under same conditions (4.8mi/kWh) in ECO mode.

Leaf wt.: 3401 lbs
Lightning wt.: 8250 lbs

I assume the weight, i.e., the road/tire friction and inertia (to get it moving), it adds are the main reasons - wind resistance at 25 would be a pretty minimal factor, though not zero.

 

[rembrant]

Need a big town / small city driving, because I get around 3 when driving to/from work. A lot of 35mph driving with a little bit of 45-55.

Yes the city driving does great mileage. Yesterday I was getting 3-3.4 mi kWh As long as you keep your foot out of it it’s amazingly efficient.

 

[THX1138]

This is an interesting thing to say.
Because the computer is telling you the ‘variables you don’t give a care about‘ are, in fact, effecting your range. Disregard or denial will not change that.
Why do you believe you should get an arbitrary “300 miles” from a 100% charge, regardless ?


You can always determine your range by multiplying your average mi/kWh by remaining battery capacity.
Remaining battery capacity is battery % x 131 kWh.
But don’t waste your time, it’s the same calculation being displayed to you .

I like to keep my center console display on "this trip" and keep tabs on my miles/kw efficiency. My average seems to be around 2 miles/kw.

 

[Brons2]

Lets use your analogy, and I'll use real world. I have a goldwing as my primary vehicle. It has a 6 gallon tank and I know I can get 40-45 miles to the gallon, I know because I have driven it to 240+ miles. This is my starting point. SO, I know I can always get 240 miles on a full tank.

So every time I top my tank off I will get 240 miles. Now that is effected by rain, wind, co-rider, trailer, etc. (within that 240 miles), But lets assume I am by myself, when I top my tank off again, I know I can get 240 miles.

This is my point, everytime I top my tank off my starting point is always 240 miles.

But for some reason the computer in my truck is telling me everytime I top my battery off to 100% I will NOT get 300 miles I will get a different value each time and each time it is always lower. I want to know if 300 miles like Ford and the EPA is my 100% starting point

When I got my truck in September I got 299 miles to a 100% charge and now I get 249 miles to a charge, I don't want a average of my driving habits, I want to know what estimated mileage will be on a 100% charge each time I top off the battery. That is my point.

trade it in for an ICE truck.

 

[Fortunete11er]

trade it in for an ICE truck.

Thanks dude. My apologies for taking so much of ur time to answer a simple question.

 

[Brons2]

Thanks dude. My apologies for taking so much of ur time to answer a simple question.

I read multiple pages of this thread. It's well known that the range estimates on multiple brands of EV manufacturers and models are at best an estimate of mixed usage. You will not find an answer for it here. You told people on the first page they were wrong multiple times before the reality sunk in.

FWIW, the Lightning does not seem to be at software featue parity with the Mach-E regarding range estimates. Both Google Maps and Apple Maps will put a percentage estimate upon arrival in their navigation, and additonally the Mach-E will capture the route to adjust the range to a realistic number on the dash screen. If it sees all highway in the route, it might adjust the range down to as low as 140-150 miles in my standard range AWD Mach-E. This same functionality is also available using the built in navigation on the Mach-E.

Hopefully Ford will bring this integration to the Lightning soon.

 

[Zprime29]

If the baseline for the goldwing is based on real world experience, why are you upset that the lightning doesn't give you a baseline without you driving it and gaining experience?

 

[Firn]

If the baseline for the goldwing is based on real world experience, why are you upset that the lightning doesn't give you a baseline without you driving it and gaining experience?

The worst part, the Lighting IS using real world experience to give that range estimate. He doesn't want that, he wants a made up number with no relation to the real world.

The irony is amazing

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