I’m not sure the premise of your comment is accurate. Look again at the entire forum. There’s a wide array of topics. Could it be that the posts about issues simply make a stronger mental impression?Most of what we see posted is people having problems.
Everything different is bad, until you get used to it. I have not had the retractable shifter get stuck, yet. But I see the possibility.
I would have been happy with a column shifter as well. But perhaps a three on the tree is just too old fashioned.
Having the drop down shifter is an overly engineered solution to the fold-flat workspace. Even something a simple as a notch in the armrest would have been a good and reliable alternative solution. Although anyone with an iPhone will know the uproar that their notch brought on.
I prefer Lincoln’s on-dash buttons.![]()
Peak shifter technology was in a Gen 2 Prius imo (mid 2000s).
- On the dash out of the way
- Large enough to be used with gloves and whatnot
- Can just mash the P button or turn the car off to put in Park
- Easy to figure out for any age group
- Had a electric jake break (bonus point)
No kidding. How many people have said this about the Ram trucks? Like it's not a real truck because it has a little rotary dial. I personally like the shifter on the F150. I also like my GM work truck column shifter.I don't get it. People have been bitching about rotary shifters neutering their cars/trucks for years. Now people are retrofitting them. To each their own.
Almost as "cool" as the Honda Element shifter![]()
Peak shifter technology was in a Gen 2 Prius imo (mid 2000s).
- On the dash out of the way
- Large enough to be used with gloves and whatnot
- Can just mash the P button or turn the car off to put in Park
- Didn't ding at you for stuff
- Easy to figure out for any age group
- Had a jake brake (bonus point)
Sorry your experience with Rivian was so terrible. Took delivery of our R1S Tri-Max in January and it's been trouble free for 3k miles. Our Lightning was having a battery module issue within 500 miles of buying it and on its first road trip had to come home on a flatbed 1,200 miles and we had 3k in trip interruption expenses. I still love our Lightning even though we are currently under the battery recall and have been advised not to charge it above 80%. So we can't drive it to our home in Montana as we need to charge above 80% on at least two interstate stretches between chargers.You are kidding right? Have a look at the Rivian forum and see the mess of problems their vehicles have... and persistent problems that have not been resolved now for years. Repeat failures, design flaws, basic service items that require repeat visits, service damaging vehicles and playing dumb.
Some of these things happen in the Ford world too but at least we have the ability to go to another dealership. The basic things like wheel alignment, panel and door fitment, paint quality are all consistent.
When there is a problem Ford puts out a TSB or recall and addresses it. By and large these trucks have not had major flaws outside the typical envelope of a new model year.
My Rivian was an absolute nightmare... both in terms of initial quality and their service team and rigid processes for doing everything. I sold it after a few months as it was just too much of a science experiment to be our daily driver.
Our F150 has been fantastic and while the dealership experience leaves a bit to be desired it's the lesser of two evils when compared to Rivian's call center...wait a few months...leave your truck for a month...find damage...wait a few months for another appointment...original problem returns...repeat ...repeat experience.
Moreover, Jim F. and Ford have done right by the early adopters with the free SuperCharger adapters and free BlueCruise subscription extension.
I would like to see software updates pushed out faster and broadly - or offer a path to mobile service doing a once/twice a year manual update. But I really can't complain and my wife LOVES our Lightning (it's her car mostly)
My very old aunt had a new 65 Dodge Dart with push button gear selections. Her grandson and I were the same age. We would ”borrow” her car at night after she fell asleep.I prefer Lincoln’s on-dash buttons.
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It looks clean, has what you need, and is taking up room that on basically every vehicle is just trim pieces.
I love my Lightning so far. Only on week three, but this truck has answered my main complaint of my previous F-150s which is feeling like a barge, even with all the power the engine made. The Lightning does things effortlessly and costs me less to drive.
Plus, man, that Frunk! We have used it mainly for groceries/Costco runs so far, but that isn’t a bad thing. We almost always have the kids with us and hated having to try and stuff groceries we didn’t want in the bed in the second row. Now I have nets and bags in the frunk and everything fits great and it’s easy to load, and the kids get to keep their back seat room.
Can’t wait for a road trip!