Outstanding Tire Wear - Firestone Destination A/T2 Tires

The factory Continentals were replaced by my dealer before purchase at 18.5K because they were half worn. I had them install Firestone Destination A/T2s because of their 3PMSF snow rating, and I’ve covered 20,000 miles so far. They’ve been wearing dead-even, but the front tread blocks were a bit rounded off. I blame my left foot because I can be an aggressive driver, and the front tires slip at WOT below 50 MPH.

I finally rotated them on Thursday, and I couldn’t believe how well they’ve been wearing. They started life at 12/32nds, and the lowest measurement was 10/32nds on the outside shoulder of one of the fronts. These don’t even carry the XL rating the door sticker requires, but they’ve done just great. I figured I’d share because this is a common size that fits the ICE F150 as well as lots of other trucks, and there’s a pervasive myth that EVs chew through tires. I’ll see at least 50-60K at this rate.

I also put on my nerd glasses and threw one on the scale. These tires are 43 lbs each, which is 9 lbs heavier than the stock Continentals. Each wheel/tire was 82 lbs, which makes the wheels weigh about 40 lbs each.

And they look great !

I'm at 10k on my stock tires and they look really good. I'm not sure why there was so much bad press on tire wear.

Im at 14K, stock Dynapro's running 45 PSI hot. The wear is great. I know alot of people complain about the wear but mine are even all the way around.

Good looking tires. I might look into getting Destination AT as my next set.
On a side note: first picture looks scary! No jackstands. Both wheels on the same side are off and only supported by a single floor jack... Not to tell you how to do things, but this is not safe. Nothing personal, just an observation.

N87 said:

Good looking tires. I might look into getting Destination AT as my next set.
On a side note: first picture looks scary! No jackstands. Both wheels on the same side are off and only supported by a single floor jack... Not to tell you how to do things, but this is not safe. Nothing personal, just an observation.

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I get what you’re saying, but I’ve been doing it like this for years. I have a severe hand disability, so I do this with as little grasping, tugging, and shoving as possible. It’s a 3.5-ton jack that could lift the entire truck, so this wasn’t a big strain. I also wouldn’t do this without my electric impact to manage the lugs, but I use a torque wrench to set the lugs at 150 ft-lbs. That’s the hardest part for me.

I’d never climb underneath without jack stands. This was just a rotation done from the side, and I didn’t put any hands, feet, or arms under the truck.

I'll bet the ev's chewing tires is related to cars that are much heavier than their icey counterparts, whereas on a truck the weight gain is a lesser effect.

Nerd glasses FTW !

rockhead said:

I'll bet the ev's chewing tires is related to cars that are much heavier than their icey counterparts, whereas on a truck the weight gain is a lesser effect.

Nerd glasses FTW !

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Believe it or not, my truck is 1,800 lbs heavier than my dad’s ‘23 ICE truck. I’ve owned everything from a light Prius to a diesel F350, and I’ve never noticed any correlation between weight and tire wear.

Dad’s truck:

My Model Y weighed as much as a Ford Edge, but my EV6 was a few hundred pounds heavier. The EV6 tires wore dead even and had no noticeable wear when I traded it in.

I think the "EV's chewing tires" is related to Tesla's insanely poor suspension setup on many of their vehicles. Like the S and X where the performance variants end up with like 2.5 camber at the most common setting for the adjustable height suspension, and they have no camber adjustment at all unless aftermarket parts are added; or the first several years of the Y, where they used the suspension from the 3 well outside its design parameters (though this mostly causes poor ride quality, I have heard complaints of it leading to tire cupping as well).

As we all know, in most people's eyes these days, EV = Tesla. If Tesla has a problem, every EV on the market gets tagged with the resulting bad rep.

I just replaced my OEM Grabbers at 41k miles. They had a bit of life left in the tread, but I sprung a leak around a plug that was put in to repair a road debris puncture.
I ended up going with the Grabbers again. The tire place had them in stock and they were pretty good tires and I couldn’t argue with the price. My only complaint is these tires seem to pick up nails and screws like a magnet. I had three patches in less than two years. That is more than I have needed in the previous 30+ years of driving! Could be bad luck, but seems statistically improbable.

JRT said:

I'm at 10k on my stock tires and they look really good. I'm not sure why there was so much bad press on tire wear.

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People pealing out maybe?

I've posted this somewhere else but it fits here as well...

The top photo is a stock Hankook A/T with about 10,000 miles on it. It is representative of the rest of the tires.

The second photo is a stock General Grabber All-Season with about 10,000 miles on it. It is representative of the rest of the tires.

Same truck, the A/Ts are on 20" Lariat wheels and have run in the colder months, the A/Ss are on 22" Platinum wheels and have run in warmer months.

In my opinion, certain tires can wear unevenly. I'm not sure how much being an EV contributes. EVs are certainly heavier and tires will wear faster but there are tires that will last a long time and wear evenly.

I went to get my OEM tires rotated at 31,000 miles and discount tire said that they couldn't touch them because the sides of the grove pattern were worn beyond what they considered safe. He said that even without that being an issue, I probably only had 3 to 4 K miles left on the tread anyway. I have never underinflated my tires and I don't take curves aggressively so I think this is just a function of these tires. I put on Michelins and have been happy with them so far. I have 3 biggish trips coming up so I'll see how they do.

Joneii said:

I just replaced my OEM Grabbers at 41k miles. They had a bit of life left in the tread, but I sprung a leak around a plug that was put in to repair a road debris puncture.
I ended up going with the Grabbers again. The tire place had them in stock and they were pretty good tires and I couldn’t argue with the price. My only complaint is these tires seem to pick up nails and screws like a magnet. I had three patches in less than two years. That is more than I have needed in the previous 30+ years of driving! Could be bad luck, but seems statistically improbable.

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Well they are called "Grabbers"

2sleep said:

I went to get my OEM tires rotated at 31,000 miles and discount tire said that they couldn't touch them because the sides of the grove pattern were worn beyond what they considered safe. He said that even without that being an issue, I probably only had 3 to 4 K miles left on the tread anyway. I have never underinflated my tires and I don't take curves aggressively so I think this is just a function of these tires. I put on Michelins and have been happy with them so far. I have 3 biggish trips coming up so I'll see how they do.

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Lots of people seem to have problems with edge wear on the OEM tires. I bought mine used with 18K on the odometer, and the service history shows an alignment was done by the previous owner. I have no way of knowing whether it was in-spec or not.

I can’t imagine how it could be a characteristic of the tire, but it seems to be common.