Distribution of 80-AMP Ford Charge Station Pro (Home Charging Station)

[RDeFran]

I just went to the website and clicked throught the Lightning links, we'll see what happens.

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[beatle]

I see the main advantages of the HIS vs. a transfer switch are:

1. Additional input line to backfeed home not needed with HIS setup.
2. Automatic switching to vehicle power during an outage, no need to plug in an additional cable.
3. 9.6kw vs. 7.2kw output
4. (Maybe) less complicated wiring?
5. Non-essential loads can be dynamically selected from the entire panel during an outage vs. statically chosen during the installation of a transfer switch.

With the onboard inverter providing up to 7.2kw via a 240v 30A output, Ford seems to be competing with themselves. If the price were not so high I would consider the HIS, but it's a pretty penny. I think the materials for a second 30A line and a transfer switch will be under $1k.

 

[adoublee]

I see the main advantages of the HIS vs. a transfer switch are:

1. Additional input line to backfeed home not needed with HIS setup.
2. Automatic switching to vehicle power during an outage, no need to plug in an additional cable.
3. 9.6kw vs. 7.2kw output
4. (Maybe) less complicated wiring?
5. Non-essential loads can be dynamically selected from the entire panel during an outage vs. statically chosen during the installation of a transfer switch.

With the onboard inverter providing up to 7.2kw via a 240v 30A output, Ford seems to be competing with themselves. If the price were not so high I would consider the HIS, but it's a pretty penny. I think the materials for a second 30A line and a transfer switch will be under $1k.

Advantage 6: Up to 7.2kW per phase versus 3.6kW per phase on bed 240V outlet.

 

[PACSMAN]

+1. I don't know why the pre-delivery is held for ransom by SunRun.

I agree - I have a electician friend who will install mine for parts only costs. I shouldn't have to wait; I'm willing to increase my deposit to cover the station cost to get it prior to my truck arriving. This is really disapointing.

 

[metroshot]

Here's the memo from Ford to dealers on the HIS and IBP.
$4K for the HIS and not including installation - does it include an inverter & transfer ?

 

[VTbuckeye]

Here's the memo from Ford to dealers on the HIS and IBP.
$4K for the HIS and not including installation - does it include an inverter & transfer ?

So how do we receive the fcsp WITH truck purchase (instructions are present for before and after vehicle delivery)? Ford says it's included with purchase...If it isn't in the truck it doesn't seem very included.

 

[Amps]

Again, nothing to address the ~28 states in which SunRun does not do business.

 

[Tony Burgh]

I have a quote from local electrician to install 100@ 240v circuit breaker, 6 feet of appropriate wire, wiring and mounting fcsp outside of garage. I don’t need (or want) Sunrun for anything. But if they can beat quote by a bunch (I doubt) and move quicker, I’ll talk with them.

 

[metroshot]

Again, nothing to address the ~28 states in which SunRun does not do business.

Then it's best to have the FCSP delivered to you or your dealer and have your electrician do the install.

 

[jpepper07]

I can't justify 4k for power backup that I may use once a year. I can justify 1k for manual transfer switch. I think I would Still have other issues with my solar setup. I rather take the additional 3k I save and add another solar array.

 

[pstansel]

I can't justify 4k for power backup that I may use once a year. I can justify 1k for manual transfer switch. I think I would Still have other issues with my solar setup. I rather take the additional 3k I save and add another solar array.

And honestly 1k may be a high bid. The Generac 6852 runs maybe $400. So really you are talking the wire and NEMA 14-50, plus labor.

 

[Amps]

Then it's best to have the FCSP delivered to you or your dealer and have your electrician do the install.

...after the sale.

That's the point. The dealer memo allows for SunRun installation to precede the sale, but does not provide a method for residents of non-SunRun states to obtain the FCSP pre-sale to have the FCSP ready. I'm about 40 miles from a 150 kW DCFC. It's not the end of the world, I already have a 40A EVSE. But, you would expect charger distribution to be handled, at minimum, by the dealership upon truck delivery where SunRun doesn't have a presence.

 

[pstansel]

You do get the 30amp mobile charger at purchase. So they aren't leaving you totally dry.

 

[adoublee]

...after the sale.

That's the point. The dealer memo allows for SunRun installation to precede the sale, but does not provide a method for residents of non-SunRun states to obtain the FCSP pre-sale to have the FCSP ready. I'm about 40 miles from a 150 kW DCFC. It's not the end of the world, I already have a 40A EVSE. But, you would expect charger distribution to be handled, at minimum, by the dealership upon truck delivery where SunRun doesn't have a presence.

Further, what happens if Sunrun doesn't come through on delivery AFTER the sale/vehicle delivery?

 

[Maquis]

Here's the memo from Ford to dealers on the HIS and IBP.
$4K for the HIS and not including installation - does it include an inverter & transfer ?

Yes, the HIS is essentially an inverter, transfer switch, and associated control system in one unit.

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