STEERING WHEEL WEIGHTS FOR BLUE CRUISE ?

[ALAN BORER]

Has anyone tried this yet , I find the Blue Cruise is a pain, on and off , put hands back on steering wheel , eyes on the road ? A Tesla owner told me that he uses a steering wheel weight because of all the highway driving he does , it seems the Tesla's have the same issue , on and off ! , I probably going to order one from amazon here is the model I'm going to buy !
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[Maquis]

You might end up with a Darwin Award.

 

[theblunden]

Some ideas are better not posted..... Plausible deniability

 

[rdr854]

Some YouTuber taped a water bottle to a steering wheel on a new Volvo to test out Volvo’s Pilot Assist cruise control. He then told folks at home not to do that. Ugh!

 

[Heliian]

I wonder if you can defeat the pesky cameras with a mask or pictures. Then you can sleep while comfortably cruising to forever.

 

[Henry Ford]

I have not tried this because I value human life.

 

[HaroldCal]

I know everyone will all over this post for obvious reasons. But iI'll take the contrary position.

When I use BC, I always keep fingers on the wheel, even in full hands-free mode. There is a comfortable position wherein I can rest my hand on my knee, and fingers on the bottom corner of the wheel (basically holding the wheel, but loosely enough so that it slips between my fingers as it steers itself). This has served me well, as in an emergency, I just tighten my grip instinctively and react. Including countless times I've had to intervene suddenly (usually due to stupidity of another driver).

But much of my highway driving is on non-hands-free routes. And on those routes, my fingers on the wheel doesn't satisfy the hands-on-wheel detection, so it triggers the alert constantly. This forces me to be in a much less confortable position for hours at a time on desolate highways.

I've considered a cheat device for this very reason. To bridge the gap in what I see as a deficiency of the hand detection mechanism. Note however that if I ever did decide to take the plunge on this issue, I definitely would not admit to it here, or anywhere else.

With that said, even though the eye tracking mechanism is similarly flawed (it does NOT approve of me drinking steaming coffee), I wouldn't consider trying to cheat that. It's competent enough, and is truly a decent safety mechanism.

 

[detansinn]

I wonder if you can defeat the pesky cameras with a mask or pictures. Then you can sleep while comfortably cruising to forever.

...into the afterlife

 

[RickLightning]

I'll echo that doing something like the OP proposes is a big mistake. Also a mistake to post on social media under your name that you're going to do it...

The positioning of the Mach-E sensors is unfortunate. You cannot drive one handed with your hand on the top. I can on the Lightning. It works fine.

I suggest the OP not do this.

I also suggest you stop posting threads with titles in ALL CAPS, which is considered shouting.

 

[roadhouse]

Shit like this is why we have these restrictions in the first place.

 

[ivan256]

After this post, when you kill somebody using BlueCruise with a safety defeat device, it'll be voluntary manslaughter instead of involuntary.

 

[Ventorum94]

I know everyone will all over this post for obvious reasons. But iI'll take the contrary position.

When I use BC, I always keep fingers on the wheel, even in full hands-free mode. There is a comfortable position wherein I can rest my hand on my knee, and fingers on the bottom corner of the wheel (basically holding the wheel, but loosely enough so that it slips between my fingers as it steers itself). This has served me well, as in an emergency, I just tighten my grip instinctively and react. Including countless times I've had to intervene suddenly (usually due to stupidity of another driver).

But much of my highway driving is on non-hands-free routes. And on those routes, my fingers on the wheel doesn't satisfy the hands-on-wheel detection, so it triggers the alert constantly. This forces me to be in a much less confortable position for hours at a time on desolate highways.

I've considered a cheat device for this very reason. To bridge the gap in what I see as a deficiency of the hand detection mechanism. Note however that if I ever did decide to take the plunge on this issue, I definitely would not admit to it here, or anywhere else.

With that said, even though the eye tracking mechanism is similarly flawed (it does NOT approve of me drinking steaming coffee), I wouldn't consider trying to cheat that. It's competent enough, and is truly a decent safety mechanism.

The solution is capacitive-touch steering wheels (like VW ID.4 has), which detect the presence of your hands on the wheel by touch, rather than steer-resistant torque.

 

[ZSC100]

The safety ***** on here are absolutely ridiculous. The fact that someone is actively thinking about bypassing a safety system means they, "A: understand it and why it's there, and B: are actively doing so at their own risk." If someone wants to use a weight on their steering wheel to not have to forcefully steer against the auto-pilot every 15sec to indicate they are still there that is totally OK. If they fall asleep behind the wheel it's no different than falling asleep behind the wheel of a 90's model truck with cruise control. It's not "self driving" and it's not advertised as such and never has been. It's driver assistance. From a legal standpoint, the most ridiculous fact is that NHTSA hasn't standardized the engineering behind this. I've been in 5 different rental cars this year that all behave differently with their LKA. If you want to put sunglasses on and fall asleep and endanger yourself and the public that's on you. The torque you need to exert on the wheel against the lane centering system is absolutely ridiculous and I find almost annoying to the point of making the whole system non-desirable. I'm actively working on a way to bypass it with software, but still allow the IPC to alert you when the system deactivates or isn't able to stay in the lane itself.

 

[Shrike]

Actual answer to your question: it doesn't work.

Unlike with Teslas, the Lightning requires variable pressure throughout driving. With Teslas you can put a weight on it and forget it, but on the Lightning it will nag you if it's not sensing a change in pressure. Even with one hand rested on the wheel on BC, the truck will still nag to keep hands on the wheel, which requires a slight pull.

Also, I just wouldn't recommend it. Unlike with Teslas, BC turns off without warning and doesn't do too well in turns. So even if you found a way around the variable pressure issue, BC could just turn off coming up to a turn and you'd still be caught off guard.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Actual answer to your question: it doesn't work.

Unlike with Teslas, the Lightning requires variable pressure throughout driving. With Teslas you can put a weight on it and forget it, but on the Lightning it will nag you if it's not sensing a change in pressure. Even with one hand rested on the wheel on BC, the truck will still nag to keep hands on the wheel, which requires a slight pull.

Also, I just wouldn't recommend it. Unlike with Teslas, BC turns off without warning and doesn't do too well in turns. So even if you found a way around the variable pressure issue, BC could just turn off coming up to a turn and you'd still be caught off guard.

Which actually makes it very annoying. On my (older) Tesla constant pressure is enough. I can rest my hands on the wheel.

With The Ford I have to jiggle the wheel constantly. All the beeps and boops. On the highway it’s great. But I need a dumb cruise on the not quite local but quite freeway roads.

Rivian has it best here. It senses touch and not pressure. It’s the most relaxing in terms of recognition.

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