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I’m wondering if this truck (2023 XLT, SR) is defective or not. Just picked it up a couple weeks ago and it had been fine. Drove from St. Louis, MO to Madison, WI. The range seemed lower than expected but, I thought the cold (35 -39 degrees) might have been contributing. Just me in the truck, no cargo, climate control set at 65 degrees. Had been getting 2.1 - 2.7 mi/kW around town. On the trip, the first couple legs were 2.0 (speed set at 70). The next ones showed 1.9 and then 1.8. Again, I thought the temp might have something to do with it.
Then, on the return trip, it showed 1.5 - 1.6 mi/kW. Charged to 84% it showed the range would be 185 mi on a 130 mile leg of the trip. By the time I got to the charger 130 mi later, it was at 7 miles and throwing all sorts of range alerts. On that leg, I had no climate control running at all. The final leg (100.7 miles) it showed 143 miles at 85% state of charge it was dropping fast so, I slowed to 60 to arrive home with only 24 miles left.
It would calculate out to only 151 miles of range at 100% state of charge. I’ve heard of folks getting significant range reductions while trailering (it’s not showing anything there and I’d never opened that menu before). I could see if I was hauling a heavy load (nothing but me and a suitcase). I could even see if it was really cold (it was 45 - 52 degrees during the return trip). So, what could account for getting 62% of the advertised range? I’ve had other electric vehicles for twelve years. This is my first Ford. But I can say it will be my last if this is truly how they perform. I mean, range anxiety at 100 miles on a vehicle adverse to have a range over 200 is ridiculous.
So, do I take it in as it’s got some defect? Or, is there some other fix? Or, is there some sort of class action suit coming for claims of vastly exaggerated range in these things? Sure, it seems to work around town but, a vehicle that costs over $50K should be able to handle a road trip of under 400 miles.
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You got 1.6 MPK in colder temps at high speeds. That is on par with what others are seeing. There are many many threads on the topic. Please read them.

Only you can decide if you are ok with it or not.
 

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Although you have owned several EVs before none of them had the aerodynamic efficiency of flat wall. Your speed killed your range and weather certainly didn’t help.
 

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Maybe one of the mods can make a special section for these posts so people can find them and review them easier. I suspect we have at least a few more months of this.
 

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No class action lawsuits….it is well documented EVs suck at range in cold weather and especially at higher speeds.

As Ford published, slow down, use the seat heater instead of heat when possible, preconditioning at home on your LV 2 charger, and being mindful of the throttle will do wonders to help.
 

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I got my truck last December and my first drive out of the city was to the nearest airport early one cold and windy morning during last winter’s major cold snap. Seeing 1.1 Mi/kWh made me very nervous about getting to the airport that morning. Just know the next time it won’t be so startling or stressful!
 

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Yep, second one today and if it's like last winter we'll see one everyday. My suggestion is to make new members read a FAQ with this info before posting.
 

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Maybe a modal dialog window that must be acknowledged and signed! Automatically pops up during winter months for any newer users to the forum.
 

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The funny thing is, It's not even cold out yet!!!!!
 
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So, for a Ford, 50 degrees is cold? That’s incredible. Other EVs don’t see that sort of degradation until you’re below freezing. And, as I. My post, it got better mileage when it was in the 30s. Same speed. Same climate setting (actually with the climate control off when it did one of the worst legs). So, the “cold” explanation doesn’t hold up. An almost 40% reduction in range, unloaded, just because it’s in the upper 40s to low 50s is pretty sad. And, there are many posts/videos. Of folks out there getting 200 miles in these things at 70 mph. Yes, it’s as aerodynamic as a brick. But, it also has a huge battery compared to my previous EVs. So, I guess it’s useful as long as you never take it out of town.
 

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I’m wondering if this truck (2023 XLT, SR) is defective or not. Just picked it up a couple weeks ago and it had been fine. Drove from St. Louis, MO to Madison, WI. The range seemed lower than expected but, I thought the cold (35 -39 degrees) might have been contributing. Just me in the truck, no cargo, climate control set at 65 degrees. Had been getting 2.1 - 2.7 mi/kW around town. On the trip, the first couple legs were 2.0 (speed set at 70). The next ones showed 1.9 and then 1.8. Again, I thought the temp might have something to do with it.
Then, on the return trip, it showed 1.5 - 1.6 mi/kW. Charged to 84% it showed the range would be 185 mi on a 130 mile leg of the trip. By the time I got to the charger 130 mi later, it was at 7 miles and throwing all sorts of range alerts. On that leg, I had no climate control running at all. The final leg (100.7 miles) it showed 143 miles at 85% state of charge it was dropping fast so, I slowed to 60 to arrive home with only 24 miles left.
It would calculate out to only 151 miles of range at 100% state of charge. I’ve heard of folks getting significant range reductions while trailering (it’s not showing anything there and I’d never opened that menu before). I could see if I was hauling a heavy load (nothing but me and a suitcase). I could even see if it was really cold (it was 45 - 52 degrees during the return trip). So, what could account for getting 62% of the advertised range? I’ve had other electric vehicles for twelve years. This is my first Ford. But I can say it will be my last if this is truly how they perform. I mean, range anxiety at 100 miles on a vehicle adverse to have a range over 200 is ridiculous.
So, do I take it in as it’s got some defect? Or, is there some other fix? Or, is there some sort of class action suit coming for claims of vastly exaggerated range in these things? Sure, it seems to work around town but, a vehicle that costs over $50K should be able to handle a road trip of under 400 miles.
You on stock tires? And what were the pressures?
 

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What was the wind direction & speed?
 
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Stick tires. Pressures read 42 all around.
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