This is your problem, it doesn't precondition the battery, the battery only keeps warm/preconditions when plugged in to level 2.
So, the only time pre-conditioning is worthwhile is if you have to drive nearly the entire range of the battery?
Don't know who said that. I believe that it was suggested that about 20 or 25 miles might be the "breakeven point".
IMO, yes.
I don’t think there is a break-even point. Preconditioning will always use at least a bit more energy than not, due to conversion losses.
Your issue, @Computermedic78, is that you don't have a 240v charger installed. No, the battery doesn't precondition with a 110v level 1 charger. It can't. There isn't enough power supplied. Does it warm slightly? Sure. But if you put an OBD reader in and watched with CarScanner, you'd see it doesn't get anywhere near the same temperature (assuming it's cold out, if it's 50 degrees that's irrelevant).
This is the key, if it's below 0c/32f you'll see the benefit.
If it's 10 degrees outside, and my truck is sitting in that, after a remote start, I won't see anywhere near full capability of my power for some time. If I preconditioned, I would see it.
I agree with this but I still haven't seen any decent analysis on financial breakeven of pre-conditioning. I've just been relying on people saying it's "good". It's not obvious to me why it would be better financially (in a meaningful way). If you want to max out your range for a long trip or don't like having restricted power then it makes sense. I've only ever made the effort to pre-condition prior to long trips or when it will be very cold (<20F) because of Ford's very crappy software flexibility. If there was some good evidence that long term battery health is improved by preconditioning above 20F then I think that's a good financial case on its own, assuming it isn't 1% improvement in degradation over 5 years or something similarly marginal.
FWIW, I took the suggestion of someone here months ago to use the Sport mode not to get more zip (though that is fun), but to increase regen. It's great, highly recommend.
Rick is speaking the truth and even the 240v element doesn’t mean you are no using some battery to condition. My Lightning currently is charged on a 16 amp 240v plug. If the battery is extra cold, I will sometimes see the percentage drop a point as the energy draw for the minute exceeds the 3,840 max watts my plug can provide during the session.
Beginning to feel like you are trolling. You've got lots of anecdotal evidence to show what the truck is capable of in a variety of climates. People who have dug into the depths of the OBDII measurements have told you how the truck behaves for various conditioning modes. If you still think your truck is not working right then take it to your dealership. If nothing is wrong with the truck, then the truck (and possibly EV's in general) are not a good fit you. That's what is so great about having options and choices. Find something that fits you.
