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Ford doesn't list them, dealers do. Dealers pay money to list them, right?

I can tell you that when I was looking for mannequins, I used 1/2 dozen sources, none of which were Ford.com (because they didn't let you), and no site was the same. I also found that some dealers, with locations around the country, listed the same vehicle at multiple locations, both on sites like Autotrader.com and other sites (and on Ford.com later).

In my area when I run Autotrader and Ford.com they aren't within 25% of each other. I have not compared listings to see specifics. I get 100+ on Ford.com until I lower the mileage to 20, where it shows 84 matches, including dealer orders.
I ran Autotrader and Ford.com on the dealer where I bought my Lightning and got the same number of Lightning listings.
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I ran Autotrader and Ford.com on the dealer where I bought my Lightning and got the same number of Lightning listings.
Population of one...

Of the 4 closest dealers to me, two match and two have different quantities.
 

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I checked my dealer and they have a bunch of standard range xlts. They were dealer orders, the xlt ers were very few, including the one I ordered but didn’t tske
 

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I have friends that I've known since high school, who do or have worked for dealers. They assure me that once the vehicle leaves the factory it's sold. it belongs to the dealer even when it's on a rail car. When Ford announces sales figures it is for everything that has left the factory. Now there are units that are waiting for a rail car or a part but there is no way 30k units are sitting on lots in Dearborn.
 

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I have friends that I've known since high school, who do or have worked for dealers. They assure me that once the vehicle leaves the factory it's sold. it belongs to the dealer even when it's on a rail car. When Ford announces sales figures it is for everything that has left the factory. Now there are units that are waiting for a rail car or a part but there is no way 30k units are sitting on lots in Dearborn.
This is not consistent with what I'm seeing in the production data vs sales reports.
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