I would say that this will require an apple update, and the Ford supercharger priority update won't help with apple maps.
Maybe, except that AppleMaps is clearly getting the acceptable list of adapters from the vehicle...they're not just making that up. It would seem the Lightning needs to "push" that information to AppleMaps doesn't it? I don't know, but I don't think an Apple update will solve the issue.
Exactly. Why not and when and who's responsible for the update? That's the discussion.
Bingo. NACS and Tesla are basically the same thing. Apple/Ford just needs to add “Tesla (adapter needed)” as an option into Apple Maps like they did on FordPass.
Not quite
You may be right, but I don't think so. I don't think Apple maps gets the route data from the truck, it gets it from the cloud (internet). If that were the case, Apple maps wouldn't work if your Ford navigation subscription was expired. So my guess is that the only thing Apple maps gets from the truck is the SOC and efficiency. Everything else is available from the internet, including traffic data and speed trap warnings, and of course charger locations.
What? I'm quite certain I never implied that Apple Maps was getting route data from the truck, or even traffic data, speed trap warnings, charger locations - none of that. That's obviously coming from AppleMaps and the internet.
I know you didn't suggest Apple was getting route data from the truck, I just don't share the opinion that Apple is getting the list of compatible adapters from the truck either. You tell Apple the make and model of your truck, that's all they need to know compatibility, which is basically EVERY ev charger that exists, except Rivian(for now), V2 Tesla superchargers (and Tesla destination chargers if you don't have that adapter).
I don’t think it’s that smart. Ford is only giving out adapters for free through June. After that, any new vehicles purchased will have the OPTION to purchase an adapter. There’s never going to be a day where every 2022-2024 has an adapter handy. IMO, they’re just slow on the uptake and they’ll end up doing it like both the FordPass and Tesla apps do by listing “Adapter needed” on each supercharger or something like that.
My reasoning is that I don't believe Apple wants to be in the business of figuring out which charge ports work with which vehicles, and then keeping that list up to date. It is entirely possible that what you suggest is true - that Apple gets make/model and then looks that data up somewhere on the internet. That feels unlikely to me. It would seem like the best way to get that data from multiple vehicles would be from the vehicle itself. Your method is possible too though. In which case we'd be waiting for that list to get updated wherever it is and by whomever is the keeper of the data. That feels risky to me...again thinking of our Lightning case where some people are NACS compatible and some aren't. That's why neither of us are sure where this data comes from ultimately. The best option would be to have that list user editable, or at least allow us to uncheck existing options. That way if an option were added that we couldn't use there would be an easy way to fix it.
Like on the Tesla app, which I recommend?My reasoning is that I don't believe Apple wants to be in the business of figuring out which charge ports work with which vehicles, and then keeping that list up to date. It is entirely possible that what you suggest is true - that Apple gets make/model and then looks that data up somewhere on the internet. That feels unlikely to me. It would seem like the best way to get that data from multiple vehicles would be from the vehicle itself. Your method is possible too though. In which case we'd be waiting for that list to get updated wherever it is and by whomever is the keeper of the data. That feels risky to me...again thinking of our Lightning case where some people are NACS compatible and some aren't. That's why neither of us are sure where this data comes from ultimately. The best option would be to have that list user editable, or at least allow us to uncheck existing options. That way if an option were added that we couldn't use there would be an easy way to fix it.
@Maineiac12 just said the last part.
Sorta like that, yep. I was envisioning the same list we see in AppleMaps now, just with a check box next to each one so we can add/remove at will. Even better would be a "+" option, so we could add our own, but Apple rarely trusts users to make that kind of decision.
