This You? Ford F-150 Lightning Crashes Into 7 Cars At Michigan Car Wash

[RickLightning]

One pedal driving gone bad?


https://www.carscoops.com/2024/04/ford-f-150-lightning-crashes-into-7-cars-at-michigan-car-wash/

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[reffahcs]

One pedal driving gone bad?


https://www.carscoops.com/2024/04/ford-f-150-lightning-crashes-into-7-cars-at-michigan-car-wash/

Lightning did those few cars a solid though, saved them $7.00 for a car wash!

On a serious note, I wonder if they experienced what I have a few times. I've had two separate instances where I've stepped on the brake and the truck did not slow down as expected, it stuttered almost like ABS was engaged but without slowing down until finally the brakes grabbed.

The first time it happened I thought it was a legit malfunction, but the second time I took my foot completely off the brakes and then pressed again and it braked fine. The second incident made me wonder if the brake pedal and gas pedal are just closer than what I was used to on my Fusion and perhaps I was stepping on both pedals at the same time.

Anyone else encounter similar issues?

 

[TaxmanHog]

Bound to make the Social Media Circus ..... wouldn't happen with an ICE vehicle and an inattentive operator ... ever. SMH [/S]

 

[CypherBlue]

Another PEBCAK ( Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard ), but in this case, PEBCAS (Steering Wheel). SMH.

 

[IdeaOfTheDayCom]

It's incredible how much force it hit because it was starting from zero and only accelerated for a second.

You would think that the collision avoidance system would've hit the brakes before making impact.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

One pedal driving gone bad?


https://www.carscoops.com/2024/04/ford-f-150-lightning-crashes-into-7-cars-at-michigan-car-wash/

Not me, I only hit 6.

 

[JRT]

Wow, not shocked, it will happen again I'm sure.

As far as tech to stop this, not likely. Early on there was a Mach-e post about how dangerous the car was because the owners "expert" fast car driver toasted his car on winding roads. Time to take responsibility vs blame tech failures in my opinion.

 

[Runaway Tractor]

On a serious note, I wonder if they experienced what I have a few times. I've had two separate instances where I've stepped on the brake and the truck did not slow down as expected, it stuttered almost like ABS was engaged but without slowing down until finally the brakes grabbed.

The first time it happened I thought it was a legit malfunction, but the second time I took my foot completely off the brakes and then pressed again and it braked fine. The second incident made me wonder if the brake pedal and gas pedal are just closer than what I was used to on my Fusion and perhaps I was stepping on both pedals at the same time.

You were stepping on both.

The brake pedal pushes on a physical cylinder that compresses brake fluid into the brake cylinders of each wheel, compressing the brake pads against the disks on each wheel. No different than the brakes of any car built in the last 40 years. It is physically impossible for the the brake pedal to not actuate braking pressure on the wheels.

If the F150, or any other vehicle, accelerates when you step on the brake, then you're stepping on the wrong pedal or both pedals. Virtually every incidence of "it accelerated when I was stepping on the brake" is stepping on not the brake.

There are use cases for stepping on both on purpose. Mainly for traction purposes, forcing the open or limited slip differential to apply power to both wheels when one is on ice or mud. This is also going to make the traction control kick in, which sounds like what you are describing.

 

[reffahcs]

You were stepping on both.

The brake pedal pushes on a physical cylinder that compresses brake fluid into the brake cylinders of each wheel, compressing the brake pads against the disks on each wheel. No different than the brakes of any car built in the last 40 years. It is physically impossible for the the brake pedal to not actuate braking pressure on the wheels.

If the F150, or any other vehicle, accelerates when you step on the brake, then you're stepping on the wrong pedal or both pedals. Virtually every incidence of "it accelerated when I was stepping on the brake" is stepping on not the brake.

There are use cases for stepping on both on purpose. Mainly for traction purposes, forcing the open or limited slip differential to apply power to both wheels when one is on ice or mud. This is also going to make the traction control kick in, which sounds like what you are describing.

Yeah I get how hydraulic brakes works, just thought it was odd because I've never experienced the issue with the two ICE F-150s I've owned previously, or any other vehicle for that matter and I've been driving for awhile.
I figured with regenerative braking there may be a way for "issues" to manifest because it's only physical braking after a certain point.
But I do agree more than likely I was pressing both. I'll have to look next time I drive to see how close the brake and gas pedals are.

 

[Adventureboy]

It's incredible how much force it hit because it was starting from zero and only accelerated for a second.

You would think that the collision avoidance system would've hit the brakes before making impact.

.... unless he/she had it turned off.

 

[IdeaOfTheDayCom]

.... unless he/she had it turned off.

If it was on and it didn't break, that's what I'd call a big bug.

 

[Zprime29]

"A Ford Taurus, Dodge Charger, and Ford Explorer all ended up with significant damage as a result. Interestingly, the Charger was part of the Livonia Police Department so at least an office was available to render aid and work the scene immediately. "

Reminds me of the time I ran into a tow truck and needed a tow afterwards. Sad part is my insurance didn't use the company I ran into so I still had to wait.

 

[reffahcs]

"A Ford Taurus, Dodge Charger, and Ford Explorer all ended up with significant damage as a result.

If there was a Chevy involved it could have been the punchline to a good joke.

A Ford a Dodge and Chevy walked into a bar...

 

[Adventureboy]

If it was on and it didn't break, that's what I'd call a big bug.

Yes, but we will probably never know the whole story. Could be a simple case of the driver hitting the wrong pedal with all the safety settings off.
If the adaptive cruise was turned off and emergency braking was turned off and cruise was set and the resume button was pressed inadvertently while trying to spin the wheel it "could" happen. Lots of conditions have to line up for that but not impossible.
There have been a few folks claiming near misses while turning into parking spots when they hit the button accidentally. I've had it happen once while spinning the wheel but at least no one was in front of me. A simple fix for Ford - ignore the Blue Cruise and resume buttons below 15mph, especially when the steering wheel is not centred. I now make sure Blue Cruise is off in parking lots.

 

[Amps]

I'll bet ACC was engaged and, because of the curve where he had been stopped, did not detect anything in front of the truck. It then accelerated attempting to get back to set speed. AEB didn't detect the vehicle ahead because the overcorrected angle of the front wheels or too little time/too much acceleration.

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