Has anyone tested ‘24 heat pump?

[speedy123]

I searched but couldn’t find any tests or road trip reports of the effectiveness of the new Lightning heat pump. Anybody have anything to direct me to? It is important as to whether I might get a ‘24 SR or go for a ‘23 ER leftover. I’m in Canada. Granted, not easy to do a test test this time of year……..

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[Zaptor]

A 23 ER will beat a 24 SR for range even with the heater at full blast the whole trip. Plus faster L2 charging and incentives no question get the ER
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[JRT]

Ya, no way the heat pump will be some magic bullet. SR will easily be 20 to 30% below published range. Get a ER, there are no post by ER owners saying they wish they went SR.

 

[Newton]

I like my SR and was not planning on taking long trips with it (I have an EV6 with about 300 miles of actual range) but not only is the Lightning getting used more than the Kia, we are taking more trips. My wife looks at the charging maps and chooses the wildest places with the fewest number of dots, I swear. I think she enjoys the challenge, and oddly enough range has not been even close to an issue in reality. I do have a frunk full of adapters just in case, but so far we have been able to stay at places with power or near the one fast charger in the wilderness.

However if you are worried about range in the winter, I would go with the ER over an SR with a heat pump. For the SR figure on about 150-160 miles between charging stops which is 20%-80% usually for us. We bought ours in November and I have been noticing that the efficiency (thus range) is improving as the weather warms or the truck breaks in. If you are trying for a commute with 120 miles or more then definitely get the ER.

I'm pretty sure that the SR is DC fast charging at the same rate as the ER based on my experience which like a lot of things seems to contradict what I have seen from Ford. The 2023 ER can charge faster at an AC (slow) charger if you have an EVSE (charger) capable of it, which is a bit rare. This has apparently changed in 2024 because the ER no longer has dual chargers except for fleet orders.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

The heat pump is not a magic cure for bad winter range. I would get a 2023 ER before I got a 2024 SR with the heat pump for close to the same price.

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

Really not sure why people are so caught up with the heat pump. The Tesla network functionally eliminates any range worries.

 

[Grease Lightning]

Really not sure why people are so caught up with the heat pump. The Tesla network functionally eliminates any range worries.

I don’t care about the efficiency aspect for range anxiety , but I am a person that enjoys having a high m/kw average so I get that the HP would assist those that run heat constantly. I just tell people to wear their jackets, shut up, and buckle up. So my system works great and often my friends want to drive instead

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

The heat pump will not do much in normal temperatures. It's only real tangible benefit would be in the cold and we're talking a handful of extra miles on your range. Not 20%. It's a nice add-on but not something that would sway my opinion between a 2023 and a 2024. A 2023 is a much better deal than a 2024 with a heat pump.

 

[mags]

The deals to be had on 2023s make any 2024 a hard sell

 

[bmwhitetx]

Has anyone even taken delivery of a 2024? All the ones on dealer sites are being built or on the way. The last update on the 2024 order thread was in March:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...2024-lightning-order-status.18160/post-378204

 

[Newton]

The heated seats and steering wheel on the Lariat work great. I just got back from a hike here in the cold and rain and I really didn't want to get out of the truck to go into the house. Heated seats provide the same sensation of warmth as cabin heating for half the electricity use. They don't defrost the windows, though.

The heat pump would probably have the most useful effect on battery conditioning if you are not able to plug in your car on a cold day, I could see that taking 7kW recently on a frosty day, but it was a very short trip to the charger so I don't know how long it would have kept using energy at that rate. If you can plug in and preheat the cabin it might not be that big of a savings - I have it on my two other cars and they also lose range in the extreme cold.

 

[speedy123]

Where I am in Canada, I get an extra $10k tax break plus free installation of charger if I go with ‘24 Pro or XLT (SR).

I could likely get a ‘23 XLT ER for about $72k Cdn locally with no tax break. A new ‘24 XLT SR with heat pump is going to be $69k plus $2700 freight, minus the 10k. All excluding the 15% sales tax on the whole thing either way.

So now that I run the math, the extra 10k seems like money well spent for the extra range and features of the ‘23.

 

[Grease Lightning]

Has anyone even taken delivery of a 2024? All the ones on dealer sites are being built or on the way. The last update on the 2024 order thread was in March:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...2024-lightning-order-status.18160/post-378204

All the marketing I have seen was they are not hitting dealers lots until June.

 

[TNVolFan]

I like my SR and was not planning on taking long trips with it (I have an EV6 with about 300 miles of actual range) but not only is the Lightning getting used more than the Kia, we are taking more trips. My wife looks at the charging maps and chooses the wildest places with the fewest number of dots, I swear. I think she enjoys the challenge, and oddly enough range has not been even close to an issue in reality. I do have a frunk full of adapters just in case, but so far we have been able to stay at places with power or near the one fast charger in the wilderness.

However if you are worried about range in the winter, I would go with the ER over an SR with a heat pump. For the SR figure on about 150-160 miles between charging stops which is 20%-80% usually for us. We bought ours in November and I have been noticing that the efficiency (thus range) is improving as the weather warms or the truck breaks in. If you are trying for a commute with 120 miles or more then definitely get the ER.

I'm pretty sure that the SR is DC fast charging at the same rate as the ER based on my experience which like a lot of things seems to contradict what I have seen from Ford. The 2023 ER can charge faster at an AC (slow) charger if you have an EVSE (charger) capable of it, which is a bit rare. This has apparently changed in 2024 because the ER no longer has dual chargers except for fleet orders.

I'm about to take a 4000 mile trip in my 23 SR. You say you've not really had an issue traveling in the SR? Range for me isn't an issue in the winter, but I do more traveling in the Summer when temps are up.

 

[Nomoregas]

I'm in Canada - GTA - 71,000Km and can say without a doubt get an ER

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