2025 Order banks open through dealers today (2/11/25)

[rdr854]

Is it like this for most vehicles sold that the trims just get worse over each progressive model year, or is this just a Ford/Lightning thing?

It is not a Ford thing. Other OEMs have made changes over the life cycle of a particular trim. Sometimes it’s based on customer feedback and other times it’s based on economics if the OEM is trying to stay at a particular price point to be competitive. It just depends upon the OEM.

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[Bills R Electric]

Anywhere I can wager on this? My bet is they will not have updated to NACS for 2025.

That would be really dumb not to be updated to NACS.

Using my adaptor is not a giant hassle, but why?

 

[Maineiac12]

That would be really dumb not to be updated to NACS.

Using my adaptor is not a giant hassle, but why?

$$$

 

[RocketGhost]

That would be really dumb not to be updated to NACS.

Using my adaptor is not a giant hassle, but why?

Because using an adapter is not a giant hassle.

 

[Pioneer74]

That would be really dumb not to be updated to NACS.

Using my adaptor is not a giant hassle, but why?

Ford would have to engineer a new charge port, add electronics and programming to the truck to make having AC and DC on the same pins possible and then change every CCS/J1772 charger out at the assembly plant and holding lots.

Not cheap.

 

[Grease Lightning]

and then change every CCS/J1772 charger out at the assembly plant and holding lots.

Or use adapters…..but wait that is only okay for us to need to

 

[Grease Lightning]

Lariat keeps the 131kWh battery. Only Flash gets the 122 battery.

This seems like an odd decision by Ford. I get that basically it is the same battery with one less module and hit helps differentiate the higher trims more from the Flash, but it add an extra complexity to service and ordering, makes the XLT and Flash fall further behind the competition in range compared to the current ER. Especially odd when they are having to heavily discount all the lines except the pro to move them.

 

[Pioneer74]

This seems like an odd decision by Ford. I get that basically it is the same battery with one less module and hit helps differentiate the higher trims more from the Flash, but it add an extra complexity to service and ordering, makes the XLT and Flash fall further behind the competition in range compared to the current ER. Especially odd when they are having to heavily discount all the lines except the pro to move them.

131 - 122 = 9

131 ÷ 9 = 14.55

So, roughly every 15th Flash has a free (ish) battery. Classic FMC cost cutting.

 

[CD4TNF]

In case anyone is curious about BlueCruise version for 2025. As of today, 2/12/25, the BlueCruise version website does NOT have the 2025 F150 Lightning yet.
Check back later.
https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...assist-features/ford-bluecruise-availability/

 

[GDN]

Ford would have to engineer a new charge port, add electronics and programming to the truck to make having AC and DC on the same pins possible and then change every CCS/J1772 charger out at the assembly plant and holding lots.

Not cheap.

I'm not really arguing with you here, I understand the cost, but Ford is the one that announced this coming change. Made the agreement with Tesla, etc.

NACS port was just one item, also Android Auto, with other things. It's Ford that can't put a plan together and stick with it. Then they scratch their head when they find out they are not in first place, and more likely second or third in no time flat. This just after 3 years ago being the only EV truck on the market. It's easy to make claims then, but not when rubber meets the road.

But yet we find ourselves here scratching our heads at how they introduce a third battery size. Obviously also cost money, but I'm sure if the numbers were crunched they are making money by offering less battery on the trim vs the cost reduction they are passing along.

 

[TaxmanHog]

2025 Ford F-150 Lightning Order Banks are Open

 

[Kev12345]

Keeps getting worse. You’d think Ford would at least do a visual refresh with the delay of T3. Instead they reduce the battery capacity on the lower trims.

 

[BabyDoc1012]

I think with all we have seen coming from Ford in regards to removing features every year and some of the talk about hybrids and pushing back the T3, I think the Lighting is a one generation and done model. I think Ford is slowly walking away from EVs. When it comes time to replace the Lighting, I may start looking at GMC with the Sierra. Not a fan of the way it looks, maybe the Sierra AT4 EV will look better. I may switch back to GMC or wait and see how Scout does. Maybe I haven't been following GM as close, but it does not seem that they are having any of the same issues that Ford is having. It is a shame, I really like my truck.

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