Charging Volvo PHEV from F150?

[sdingeldein]

Since getting my truck in Dec 2023 (XLT) my wife has purchased a Volvo XC 40 recharge twin. My ICE lease was about out (Honda Pilot) so yesterday I leased a Volvo XC90 PHEV. The Ford charger won't work with the Volvo PHEV. Can I use the 220 outlets on the truck to charge the Volvo if needed? Otherwise I'm just going to run the level 1 charger to a wall outlet as I will be driving the truck more than the Volvo. I wanted to have an ICE car but rarely drive more than 20 miles in a day which would be mostly electric with the Volvo.

Any downsides to charging from the truck if I need to (other than draining the Ford battery)? The battery on the Volvo is 18.8 Kwh capacity.

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[mr.Magoo]

Seems like a lot of work.
Why not just get a new/different charger ?

 

[KurtsRPMGarage]

Sure it would work but there are a lot of losses in changing ac (wall) to dc (truck battery) then back to ac (pro power inverter) and finally back to dc (Volvo battery). You’d be lucky to get 60% of the power you pay for into the Volvo. Just plug it into a 120v wall outlet.

 

[Heliian]

If you don't plan on using the home integration system, you can change the whole cable and plug to a J1772 one.

 

[Maquis]

The easiest thing is probably to have an electrician install a 6-20 receptacle in your garage to power the EVSE that came with the Volvo.
If you drain the Volvo battery completely, it will take 15 - 16 hours to charge on 120V.

 

[rdr854]

Since getting my truck in Dec 2023 (XLT) my wife has purchased a Volvo XC 40 recharge twin. My ICE lease was about out (Honda Pilot) so yesterday I leased a Volvo XC90 PHEV. The Ford charger won't work with the Volvo PHEV. Can I use the 220 outlets on the truck to charge the Volvo if needed? Otherwise I'm just going to run the level 1 charger to a wall outlet as I will be driving the truck more than the Volvo. I wanted to have an ICE car but rarely drive more than 20 miles in a day which would be mostly electric with the Volvo.

Any downsides to charging from the truck if I need to (other than draining the Ford battery)? The battery on the Volvo is 18.8 Kwh capacity.

Would be nice if there was a UL listed adapter that allowed the use of a FCSP with a PHEV. As a result, I am looking at a Volvo XC90 B5 or B6 if the replacement Volvo EX90 does not work out.

 

[RetiredLightning]

My wife has a Lincoln Corsair PHEV with 14.4 battery that I charge from the 240 outlet on the truck all the time (at least before the Lincoln recall on their battery & no charging for the time being).
It was frequently less than a 3hour charge & probably only single digit % drop in truck battery. Her Corsair isn’t able to take what our solar produces but the truck can with ease, so I would top hers off while charging mine.

 

[Monkey]

Charging from the Lightning would be awkward. If the Volvo lets you set the charge rate to 24A or less, you could charge from the 30A outlet I the bed of the Lightning (if you have the 9.6kW Pro Power). You'd have to pick up the right plug adapter, some RV/ Camper places have quirky adapters like that where they assume you know what you're doing and won't screw up too bad. The Tesla Mobile Charger has a variety of plugs available, and is easy to adapt.

Other better option is, unless you're using the Home Power Backup, to ditch the Ford Charge Station Pro for a different EVSE unit that doesn't have the quirky CCS connector handle. In theory, you could use a J1772 extension cable and modify the end to fit onto the FCSP charge handle. I don't know of anyone who has tried this -- it's not a cost-effective or ideal solution. Charging a Tesla from the FCSP is do-able if you modify a cheap J1772 to Tesla adapter (like Tesla's $50 one they include with the cars). Takes a minute or two with a Dremel tool. I saw a post online where someone was using a modified J1772 to Tesla plug connected to a Lectron Tesla to J1772 adapter on their FCSP to charge a PHEV. I don't know if I would trust that though.

You could install another outlet for the PHEV charger...

 

[VTbuckeye]

The Volvo EVs will allow adjustment of charge power. Their phevs only have j1772 plugs and only charge at up to 16amp. I had an xc60T8 for a few weeks while my ex90 was getting some service/recall work that took way too long for the parts to arrive. I used to have a 2016 XC90T8 we with a 9.7kWh battery of which 6ish kWh were useable. It also charged at 16Amp (3.7ish kW). I charged our xc40 EV from the lightning a couple times when there was a free L2 charger that I could use occasionally to fill up the truck. As stated earlier, there are conversion losses each time there is a DC/AC switch. Wall AC to truck DC to truck AC to Volvo DC makes for a lot of waste. I'd just a low power EVSE or maybe you could get a j1772 to Tesla AC adapter (Dremel/file the adapter so that the fcsp plug will fit), then plug in a Tesla to j1772 adapter into the Tesla adapter.... Probably not a good way to do it and maybe it would work, but for the cost in adapters you could probably add a nena 6-20 outlet for the 16 amp charging.

 

[FloridaMan655321]

Reading this really makes me glad I installed the Tesla Universal charger, then had an inlet installed on the outside of the house. Makes it much more flexible for charging and I can still power most of my house (though not automatic).

 

[carys98]

Charging from the Lightning would be awkward. If the Volvo lets you set the charge rate to 24A or less, you could charge from the 30A outlet I the bed of the Lightning (if you have the 9.6kW Pro Power).

You can pull the full 30A from the truck. The 20% derating is electric code for residential construction. The truck is engineered to allow full draw on the 30A outlets. The Ford supplied mobile charger is set to run at 30A.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

You can, yes. And you can run Pro Power while charging on the FCSP, which means you would not be draining the truck's battery.

That said, I'd just have a 6-20 installed like @Maquis suggested.

 

[MidAtlanticLightningClub]

Since getting my truck in Dec 2023 (XLT) my wife has purchased a Volvo XC 40 recharge twin. My ICE lease was about out (Honda Pilot) so yesterday I leased a Volvo XC90 PHEV. The Ford charger won't work with the Volvo PHEV. Can I use the 220 outlets on the truck to charge the Volvo if needed? Otherwise I'm just going to run the level 1 charger to a wall outlet as I will be driving the truck more than the Volvo. I wanted to have an ICE car but rarely drive more than 20 miles in a day which would be mostly electric with the Volvo.

Any downsides to charging from the truck if I need to (other than draining the Ford battery)? The battery on the Volvo is 18.8 Kwh capacity.

Sure. That’ll work just fine but losses will be high. You can also just get a J-1772 extension cord and fennel the female so it fits on the CCS-1 on the FCSP.

 

[Adventureboy]

The easiest thing is probably to have an electrician install a 6-20 receptacle in your garage to power the EVSE that came with the Volvo.
If you drain the Volvo battery completely, it will take 15 - 16 hours to charge on 120V.

The 6-20 running 16 amp EVSE will do 3.5kw to the battery. That is 5 1/2 hours from completely empty to full on the 18.8kw battery. I run this for my wife's MME and it covers her daily commute plus quite nicely. It is inexpensive to have installed.

Incidentally, you can daisy chain the chargers - Plug the Lightning into your EVSE and leave PPOB on charging your Volvo. Not very efficient, but it will work in a pinch and tops both up without draining the Lightning battery. It works with the Ford Mobile Charger at 30 amps, but you can also use a 16 or 24 amp generic EVSE. 32 amp will not work.

 

[Adventureboy]

Seems like a lot of work.
Why not just get a new/different charger ?

This is what I did. Even with the ER, a 48 amp charger charges overnight almost always less than 8 hours unless it's completely empty trying and I'm trying to get to 100%. I sold the FCSP, bought an Emporia and came out money ahead. Some folks really need the extra power the FSCP can provide or want the Home Backup system, but many of us simply don't need it.

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