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[hturnerfamily]

There are several differences in discussions and situations about what happens when you 'open the driver door', whether in Forward, or Reverse:

A) If START the truck WITH the driver door open, or you open the driver door before you put the truck into gear, you can certainly and easily put the truck in GEAR and move forward or backward without issue... there is no safety measure in place here, since you already have the door open...

B) If you open the driver door WHILE IN GEAR, but not moving, AND your foot IS on the brake, the truck WILL immediately move the shifter into PARK. The gear shifter will move automatically into place. This is really the simple SAFETY measure to not allow someone to accidentally 'think' they are already in Park, especially when 'AUTO HOLD' is in play, and then open the door...

C) If you open the driver door, though, WHILE IN GEAR, and moving, and your foot is NOT on the brake, the truck will CONTINUE to drive IF you are already above a low speed, but it WILL make a lot of 'parking prawl' clicking noises as it tries does so - it is probably not going to suddenly slam on the brakes and put itself into park, though.
If, though, you are slow enough, such as with backing, It WILL brake the truck, suddenly, and with a rocking motion, and also put the gear shifter into PARK ... This is probably less than 2-3 mph, but testing might reveal a better number... if you are brave. This is the safety measure it is designed to employ.
The only real way to 'disable' this sudden action is to ALREADY HAVE THE DRIVER DOOR OPEN before you put the truck into gear, whether forward or reverse.

Yes, many of us growing up with older vehicles without these safety features are certainly used to how to handle the times we need to open the door while in gear and while moving, but the 'higher ups', whether in government regulation, or at the manufacturer, are going to side with more safety.

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[TaxmanHog]

IIRC, the seatbelt engaged also inhibits autopark when door is open, not sure If you have enough slack in the shoulder harness to swing your head out of the door opening to eyeball your positioning......

Why is it a problem to just use your sideview mirrors and backup cameras to position truck to trailer?

BTW ... why the divergence from post 1 concern, you guys are going far afield.

 

[TMND]

Conversations change as they happen lol. My reason for keeping the door open when hooking up a trailer is I like to get in and out of the truck multiple times making sure I lined up perfectly and don’t like opening and closing the door. Old habit from not having cameras, but also I can’t accurately gauge depth with these cameras, down to inches at least. Many times hooking up I think I’m centered on it and have to come back another inch or so.

 

[Smokey]

User error, not the truck. What if it was a kid falling out of your truck instead of ice ! The truck did what it was suppose to do, stop and let the driver reflect on his decision.

 

[deltalightning]

For 90 minutes.

 

[chl]

Sorry Man....I didn't mean to offend you. I agree with you 100%. No truck is worth even a slight gamble on your life. To me, that even includes trying to convince them that my truck is a crap EV. A person that is willing to do an armed car jack is clearly not someone that is wanting to have a discussion about the merits of hijacking ICE over EV's. Just talking to him could be enough in his mind to be some form of resistance. My only words would be, "Hey man, just take it" and then get out of the way. Again, I apologize. If it wasn't meant to be funny and you feel it is best to try and dissuade him before handing over the keys, then all the power to you.

Not offended - maybe it sounded like that from my choice of words? if so, my bad. I enjoyed your comment and I get your point, some hijackers are probably on a hair trigger so even looking at them funny would get you shot.

I was kind of joking myself about telling them it's an EV anyway.

But the general public still has a negative view of EV especially the limited range they believe is a big problem so maybe that would actually deter a thief? Hope I never have to find out. I always watch out for lurkers when going to and from my vehicles.

Many years ago, I learned how to disarm a person pointing a gun at me in a classroom, but never had to try it in a real world situation, and I think I never will, unless I think they are about to shoot me or my family - then maybe I have nothing to lose by trying?

I am in my 70's but still healthy and fit but not knife or bullet-proof.

I played drums in a few bands over the years, mostly in the 1970's and 1980's, including rock, jazz, blues and country/country rock (when there was a difference) so as you can imagine, I encountered many difficult people in that profession, mostly guitar players (lol) and drunken "red necks" in bars and other venues, so I know sometimes you have to hold em, sometimes fold em, and sometimes, ask them to give your three steps toward the door.

Luckily, I was always able to diffuse the situation and avoid fisticuffs by 'reading' the other person in a split second and finding a way to calm them down or get the f out of there pdq as the case may be.

This has kind of gotten off the auto-park issue of the OP, but it's been fun anyway!

Take care, and again, no offense taken.

 

[chl]

There are several differences in discussions and situations about what happens when you 'open the driver door', whether in Forward, or Reverse:

A) If START the truck WITH the driver door open, or you open the driver door before you put the truck into gear, you can certainly and easily put the truck in GEAR and move forward or backward without issue... there is no safety measure in place here, since you already have the door open...

B) If you open the driver door WHILE IN GEAR, but not moving, AND your foot IS on the brake, the truck WILL immediately move the shifter into PARK. The gear shifter will move automatically into place. This is really the simple SAFETY measure to not allow someone to accidentally 'think' they are already in Park, especially when 'AUTO HOLD' is in play, and then open the door...

C) If you open the driver door, though, WHILE IN GEAR, and moving, and your foot is NOT on the brake, the truck will CONTINUE to drive IF you are already above a low speed, but it WILL make a lot of 'parking prawl' clicking noises as it tries does so - it is probably not going to suddenly slam on the brakes and put itself into park, though.
If, though, you are slow enough, such as with backing, It WILL brake the truck, suddenly, and with a rocking motion, and also put the gear shifter into PARK ... This is probably less than 2-3 mph, but testing might reveal a better number... if you are brave. This is the safety measure it is designed to employ.
The only real way to 'disable' this sudden action is to ALREADY HAVE THE DRIVER DOOR OPEN before you put the truck into gear, whether forward or reverse.

Yes, many of us growing up with older vehicles without these safety features are certainly used to how to handle the times we need to open the door while in gear and while moving, but the 'higher ups', whether in government regulation, or at the manufacturer, are going to side with more safety.

Never knew it was so complicated.

But even so, I am glad cars and trucks are a lot safer now than when I started driving at 16-17 in 1968 - did not even have seat belt mandates back then, rode my MC with no helmet legally, had to be 18 to drink or get drafted, but couldn't vote unless 21, schools were segregated and pot was illegal...what were 'they' thinking back then anyway? lol

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