Key Fob - replacement

[RickLightning]

You first. Post a video.

No need, I know it's not an issue. Not the first Ford with the receptacle under the cup holder.

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[Maquis]

I'm pretty sure it's not $1000 per hour, maybe $100 per hour.

When purchasing any new vehicle, I always get a 3rd key and I think they charged me $200. When the new key came in, it took them 20 minutes to program it. Wasn't a big deal.

You quoted my 4 month old post out of context.
I was replying to charging $165 to do a 10 minute job….you do the math!

 

[cal]

First gen Tesla were just as expensive. I lost my fob on our 22 Plaid and was told that fortunately fob replacement had dropped in 2020 to $165 including programming. Back in 2014 it was more than $450.

 

[SmoothJ]

Does the PaaK count as a "key" so that you can program a missing FOB?

 

[Pioneer74]

Does the PaaK count as a "key" so that you can program a missing FOB?

No.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

I have a Question:
I have the two key FOB's that came with my Truck,
I would like to make a third one, in case one is lost.

I see I can order one directly from FORD in Hamilton Ontario parts centre, about $140
I also see these Fobs on Toms Keys Company website, for about $87
then checking on Aliexpress they show what looks like the same Fob for $32 (with free shipping)

SO...what's up with the vast difference in prices, and is there a sercurity risk to the 'cheap' ones?

I sure don't need a Fob that reduces the security of the truck.

What is the consensus?

 

[potato]

What is the consensus?

I don't know if there is a consensus.

I bought an Aliexpress one for my "third". It exists so I could reprogram a replacement myself if I lose an OEM one. It doesn't have the frunk button; it has a remote start button instead, but otherwise seemed to work fine.

$140 CAD for OEM doesn't sound that bad, really.

If you're going the aftermarket route, make sure you get the correct frequency. Apparently it changed for at least some 2024s. You can confirm what your vehicle uses by looking at the FCC ID on your existing key fob.

 

[bmwhitetx]

I have a Question:
I have the two key FOB's that came with my Truck,
I would like to make a third one, in case one is lost.

I see I can order one directly from FORD in Hamilton Ontario parts centre, about $140
I also see these Fobs on Toms Keys Company website, for about $87
then checking on Aliexpress they show what looks like the same Fob for $32 (with free shipping)

SO...what's up with the vast difference in prices, and is there a sercurity risk to the 'cheap' ones?

I sure don't need a Fob that reduces the security of the truck.

What is the consensus?

More discussion here
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/forum/threads/issue-programming-a-new-key.18193/#post-365280

I bought the $30 Aliexpress one and it works fine. The 2024’s used a different frequency and I’m not sure about Canada (do you have an FCC equivalent). But you need to make sure the frequency matches. Maybe Canadian key fobs still have US FCC ids?

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

Yes FCC is all N.America, although in Canada we call it ISED - same standards really. EU has CE standard.
When I search it looks like the frequency is 315mhz

- From the comments there is no sense in paying the premium price for the Genuine Ford Fob from what I am seeing, just go for the lowest cost option since they all work.
The point for me is to make a spare while I still have two original fobs, since the low cost copy procedure is only available while you have two working fobs.

Maybe good to get two spares, and put them in a safe place after programing and confirming they work. Thanks Guys.

 

[Altivec]

Has anyone confirmed that you can program using one of the cheap knockoff fobs. For example if I lost one of my OEM fobs, would I be able to program a new one with one OEM fob and one already programmed Aliexpress one? or do you need both of the OEM fobs to program.

 

[Maquis]

Has anyone confirmed that you can program using one of the cheap knockoff fobs. For example if I lost one of my OEM fobs, would I be able to program a new one with one OEM fob and one already programmed Aliexpress one? or do you need both of the OEM fobs to program.

You need 2 in order to program another one. This is a security feature so the kid at valet parking can’t copy your key.

 

[potato]

Maybe good to get two spares, and put them in a safe place after programing and confirming they work. Thanks Guys.

Apparently, from what I've read, the truck can only have four fobs in total at a time. So if you make two spares, you couldn't add another OEM one later without a trip to the dealer. Seems like a dumb artificial limitation to me but that's what I heard. FWIW

 

[bmwhitetx]

When I search it looks like the frequency is 315mhz

Interesting. a few 2024's have reported 433. Did you look at one of your existing fobs like shown here:
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/forum/threads/issue-programming-a-new-key.18193/post-471106

The FCC website is https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/[your-FCC-ID-here]

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

Has anyone confirmed that you can program using one of the cheap knockoff fobs. For example if I lost one of my OEM fobs, would I be able to program a new one with one OEM fob and one already programmed Aliexpress one? or do you need both of the OEM fobs to program.

Good Question,
If I get two cheap Fobs, I will try programing one with the other & an OEM to see.

 

[Altivec]

Good Question,
If I get two cheap Fobs, I will try programing one with the other & an OEM to see.

Thanks... I would appreciate that. We use both OEM fobs right now (wife has one). I was thinking about getting a cheap one just in case one of us lose one, but then thought, well what if the one of us that is still using the OEM fob loses it. Can we program another cheap one with the two we would have left (1-OEM & 1-knock off). I am assuming the answer is yes but my assumptions have been wrong before.

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