Want more than 30 Amps (pro-power) what happened to 9.6KW?

[hturnerfamily]

TESTED: SUCCESS!

you now have an additional 240v 20amp OUTPUT at the rear BED outlets, via a 'Y' adapter:

here's the 'Y' adapter(two 30amp 120v male to a single 50amp 240v female, using two 30amp to 20amp adapters to the BED outlets) setup.... while there is such a thing as an adapter that can go from 50amp 240v female to TWO 20amp 120v males, those are rare... since I have a camper and often use these 30amp to 20amp adapters, I had two on hand, which made this TEST easy...
It's great to find ADDITIONAL 240v output, IF you ever need it... NOW WE KNOW : )

The 240v OUTPUT verification means that you can use BOTH the onboard ProPower 30amp 240v twist-outlet, along with ANOTHER 20amp 240v output with these adapters... giving you much more 'available' 240v power, and WITHOUT having to have the HIS(Home Integration System) that is very expensive. Yes, you only have a total of 9.6kw of output, or put into 240v terms: 40 amps, but that extra 10amps might be just what you need. You can use the full 20amps from this 'new' 240v output, or you can share it with the existing 30amp output, as long as both, together, don't go over 40amps, or either exceed their 'own' limits, 30 or 20.

Here's the reason this WORKS: Ford designed the LIGHTNING with a 2.4kw 120v 20amp output, on a single inverter, with outlets within the Frunk, the Cab, AND one set in the BED.
When you 'upgrade' to the ProPower optional 9.6kw OUTPUT, you get a SECOND inverter, on a DIFFERENT phase, with the 30amp 240v twist-lock outlet, AND an additional set of 20amp 120v outlets in the BED. These 'additional' outlets are on a DIFFERENT phase from the neighboring 120v outlets, and allow this 'combining' of two 120v circuits to create the 240v output we want. THANK YOU FORD.

I believe that the 30amp twist-lock outlet, and the two 20amp outlets directly underneath are on the REAR bed inverter, and the neighboring two outlets are on the FRONT inverter, with the Cab and Frunk outlets.

CONGRATS! : ) woop!

 

[PreservedSwine]

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TESTED: SUCCESS!

you now have an additional 240v 20amp OUTPUT at the rear BED outlets, via a 'Y' adapter:

here's the 'Y' adapter(two 30amp 120v male to a single 50amp 240v female, using two 30amp to 20amp adapters to the BED outlets) setup.... while there is such a thing as an adapter that can go from 50amp 240v female to TWO 20amp 120v males, those are rare... since I have a camper and often use these 30amp to 20amp adapters, I had two on hand, which made this TEST easy...
It's great to find ADDITIONAL 240v output, IF you ever need it... NOW WE KNOW : )

The 240v OUTPUT verification means that you can use BOTH the onboard ProPower 30amp 240v twist-outlet, along with ANOTHER 20amp 240v output with these adapters... giving you much more 'available' 240v power, and WITHOUT having to have the HIS(Home Integration System) that is very expensive. Yes, you only have a total of 9.6kw of output, or put into 240v terms: 40 amps, but that extra 10amps might be just what you need. You can use the full 20amps from this 'new' 240v output, or you can share it with the existing 30amp output, as long as both, together, don't go over 40amps, or either exceed their 'own' limits, 30 or 20.

Here's the reason this WORKS: Ford designed the LIGHTNING with a 2.4kw 120v 20amp output, on a single inverter, with outlets within the Frunk, the Cab, AND one set in the BED.
When you 'upgrade' to the ProPower optional 9.6kw OUTPUT, you get a SECOND inverter, on a DIFFERENT phase, with the 30amp 240v twist-lock outlet, AND an additional set of 20amp 120v outlets in the BED. These 'additional' outlets are on a DIFFERENT phase from the neighboring 120v outlets, and allow this 'combining' of two 120v circuits to create the 240v output we want. THANK YOU FORD.

I believe that the 30amp twist-lock outlet, and the two 20amp outlets directly underneath are on the REAR bed inverter, and the neighboring two outlets are on the FRONT inverter, with the Cab and Frunk outlets.

CONGRATS! : ) woop!

Very cool!

 

[hturnerfamily]

here's the two adapters I used, although there are many and various 'styles' of adapters on the market that accomplish the same overall task... we've camped and traveled around the country, Canada, and even motorhomed through Alaska, so we've seen a LOT of reasons to have many different types of 'adapters' for many and various situations... coming from the Camping world gives a lot of EXPERIENCE with electricity, adapters, and just figuring out the 'ways' to accomplish the end goal: POWER!

 

[hturnerfamily]

after more testing, and input from others, it looks like the BED 20amp outlets may not really be limited to only 20amps. You might see more than that available, if you push it...
Two things come to mind:
A) These are 'regular' three-pronged 15/20amp outlets, just like in your home. They are normally designed, I suppose, for devices, appliances, or tools that need 'less than' 20amps of power. But, it really depends on how the outlets are wired, specifically the wire SIZE(awg), and WHERE the power originates from, or, in this case, 'shared' with.
B) If the rear 120v/240v INVERTER is powering these outlets, including the more powerful 30amp 240v 'twist-lock' outlet, then the power may actually be shared between ALL of these BED outlets, meaning that the smaller 20amp outlets may actually be capable of up to 30amps, each side("A' or "B'), since there seems to be no 'individual' outlet-limiting 'breaker' for each, only for each circuit("A' or "B')...
When you look at the on-screen ProPower usage, it shows 'Circuit A', and 'Circuit B', with each having a total, or MAX, of 3,600watts, or 30amps at 120v for each side(circuit). And, Combined, for 240v output at the twist-lock outlet, would be 30amps, but at 240volts(twice as much as the other outlets).

I imagine that someone, maybe me, at some point, will try to see if more than 20amps from one of the outlets will trip the internal 'breaker'... that would have to be a sizeable device, appliance, or tool, which I can't think most of us would have access to, or, SEVERAL high-draw items, like heaters, all on high, etc, at least for a short time, as a test.

The reality is that none of this matters to most folks, but I suppose some of us with electrical experience, and sometimes finding ourselves in scenarios where 'more power' might be useful, will try to flesh out what ALL the options are.... even if they are never actually used.

 

[tls]

The inverter powering these outlets is the same one powering the 30A outlet. If you try to draw more than 30A total from the outlets in the bed, no matter what dangerous wiring hack you resort to, you will blow the breaker.

 

[Randall Stephens]

The inverter powering these outlets is the same one powering the 30A outlet. If you try to draw more than 30A total from the outlets in the bed, no matter what dangerous wiring hack you resort to, you will blow the breaker.

So we just use a 50a breaker then?

I’m kidding.

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